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  Any one know Jerry Woods in Murray Kentucky?

  by dogon in

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  anyone near murray kentucky know a jerry and donna woods who moved there about 9 months ago?

  i used to know them in michigan before they moved.

  i would like to know if anyone finds them as strange as i do..

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  Can you tell us what was strange about them?

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  The structure of the Organization keeps people in

  by BonaFide in

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  when i was in bethel, i noticed this, and of course more now.. there are those big buildings in brooklyn, the huge watchtower sign, that big clock facing manhattan.

  everyone in bethel has those haircuts, clothes are pressed.

  everyone is at morning worship.

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  Yes, true, fear does keep some in. But how many Witnesses actually think seriously about leaving? I never did, I don't remember any of my friends saying anything. I didn't even THINK IT. I just kept going and going, until I saw that bound volume for 1989, and I saw how they had changed "before the end of this century" to "in our time". That got me going.

  But I think most Witnesses just keep going because they have done that for so many years. They made up their mind, they think, and they just get ready and go to the meetings, no matter what they say there and no matter what they do.

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  Bethelites Entitled to Compensation

  by compound complex in

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  i feel that this old information on dr. brenda upton deserves a thread of its own as its earlier post on another thread elicited no comment.

  needless to say, it was still seen and reviewed by not a few readers.. isn't this situation a reflection of what is happening now in spain?.

  church may be forced to pay millions .

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  I remember the car group talking about this awhile back. They said, "How could they sue the Society when they had the PRIVILEGE of serving in Bethel. They received so many blessings, and they went and sued? Terrible attitude."

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  The structure of the Organization keeps people in

  by BonaFide in

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  when i was in bethel, i noticed this, and of course more now.. there are those big buildings in brooklyn, the huge watchtower sign, that big clock facing manhattan.

  everyone in bethel has those haircuts, clothes are pressed.

  everyone is at morning worship.

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  When I was in Bethel, I noticed this, and of course more now.

  There are those big buildings in Brooklyn, the huge Watchtower sign, that big clock facing Manhattan. Everyone in Bethel has those haircuts, clothes are pressed. Everyone is at Morning Worship. Brothers that have been in Bethel for 30 years are conducting the text. Everything is organized and clean.

  I don't know why this is, but the structure itself makes you think it must be right, it must be the true religion. Look at that cleanliness, it's amazing. I have been in other factories, and Bethel ones are the cleanest. Even foreign branches are clean, I have been to several. And everyone is busy.

  The same principle works in the Kingdom Halls. When I go to the meetings, everyone is dressed nice, acting polite, well, most of them. They don't talk about the WT Society very often, we study the publications and the Bible, but actually saying "The Headquarters in New York that decides everything", well it isnt ever put like that. The Hall is clean and organized, the accounts are handled, the meetings keep going on and on, and the C.O. visits. There is brother Faithful over there, baptized for 50 years.

  And some of the friends don't read the magazines or really pay attention. Plus they review the same stuff all the time. But they keep going. It's not really fear about losing family by leaving that keeps people in I think, its just that most Witnesses don't even think about leaving at all. They just keep going and going.

  So it's not the teachings really, I think its the structure itself that gives weight to the Organization. Or is it?

  I would like to hear your comments about this.

  BF
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  The cost of going undercover to help family and friends - Is it worth it?

  by BonaFide in

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  so all of you that are trying to help your family and friends as a disassociated person, or disfellowshipped, or sort-of-shunned.. what do you think about getting reinstated or reactivated to help them get out?.

  the time invested would be two meetings a week, about 6 hours total including driving.

  for those on the outside, you would have to get reinstated, so you would need 2-3 months of going to meetings making sure the elders see you and know your intention.. add field service in there.

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  Thanks everyone for your comments. I like this forum, even when people disagree with you they tell you why, and make you think.

  Is it just me, or do you all find it funny that Reniaa posted me scriptures about lying - AND SHE IS BEING DISHONEST TO THE ORGANIZATION BY BEING ON THIS SITE!!!!

  Pretty funny, I think. It's like saying, "Hey, don't use $#%&ing profanity, ok?"

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  Why do so many on here quote the WT and Awake when Witnesses hardly ever read them?

  by BonaFide in

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  really people, most witnesses do not read the magazines.

  i can say that because i go to the meetings, i go in service, i have been a witness all my life.

  i have been in english, spanish, and sign language congregations.

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  When I was a teenager, we had WT studies on Saturday nights, we used to read articles out loud in service, now there is none of that. All of us kids had our own subscription, with the brown cover, remember that? We used to really love getting the magazines, and the "new light." Everyone would be talking about it.

  No more. The friends just use the cover to place the magazine at the door. No reading hardly.

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  My undercover saga - Part 1

  by BonaFide in

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  actually, this is part 8 or 9, i can't remember, but i thought i would number them from now on.. i am an active witness, and i want to help my friends and family.

  i have had some success in trying to get them to reason, because i always state at the outset, and at the end of the conversation, that i support the faithful slave and gb no matter what.. so since i have a big vehicle, some of the older ones asked me to take them to special assembly day this past weekend.

  i had already been, and i told you all about it, but i agreed.

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  Ok, I will be more careful about the details. I know I mentioned a certain location of the assembly, so I will eliminate those in the future.

  Thanks everyone for giving me good points from the magazines and thinking points to help me help my friends.

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  My undercover saga - Part 1

  by BonaFide in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  actually, this is part 8 or 9, i can't remember, but i thought i would number them from now on.. i am an active witness, and i want to help my friends and family.

  i have had some success in trying to get them to reason, because i always state at the outset, and at the end of the conversation, that i support the faithful slave and gb no matter what.. so since i have a big vehicle, some of the older ones asked me to take them to special assembly day this past weekend.

  i had already been, and i told you all about it, but i agreed.

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  Sorry that happened to you Mindmelda. When I served as an elder, I volunteered to handle a very difficult case of malicious gossip. Of course, the persons involved turned on me, which I told my fellow elders would happen. But the bro's went after me with all kinds of crazy accusations. This was the same couple who accused those that made them mad of murder, child molestation, fraud, incest, yep anything.

  No matter how I tried to reason with them, they were cruel. The one elder that never shows at the meetings was there for every meeting with me.

  It's incredible how cruel some people can be in a cult.

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  The cost of going undercover to help family and friends - Is it worth it?

  by BonaFide in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so all of you that are trying to help your family and friends as a disassociated person, or disfellowshipped, or sort-of-shunned.. what do you think about getting reinstated or reactivated to help them get out?.

  the time invested would be two meetings a week, about 6 hours total including driving.

  for those on the outside, you would have to get reinstated, so you would need 2-3 months of going to meetings making sure the elders see you and know your intention.. add field service in there.

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  You have to be a good actor though, and don't take anyone into your confidene you are not sure off.

  I was talking to a sister I have known for 20 years, as we talked I realized she is undercover too. She told me to be careful. She had said a few things to me a couple of years ago that made me think. But she is still undercover for her family.

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  Why do so many on here quote the WT and Awake when Witnesses hardly ever read them?

  by BonaFide in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  really people, most witnesses do not read the magazines.

  i can say that because i go to the meetings, i go in service, i have been a witness all my life.

  i have been in english, spanish, and sign language congregations.

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  Its also easy for a Witness to say, "No I didn't read that point, I will check on it later."

  The magazines don't carry much weight anymore, because the truth "changes" for one.

  And another reason is that we have the Internet. Whereas when I was a kid, the magazines did have some articles I liked and used at school, nowadays everyone does research on the Internet. Even public libraries have Internet now, and less books.

  BF