I visited there for a couple of days back in 2000. No security as I remember. The Branch Office in South America, wow, tight security with a guard, metal gates, and cameras.
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Bethel Security - Crazy incidents forced Australia to get gates and a guard!
by Witness 007 inaustralia bethel on the outskirts of sydney {about 35 km} had fences no front gates, and no real security for 12 years.
you could just walk on in anytime...theives once stole a bethelites car during the day and brothers waved goodbye as they left, nice!
a crazy person stripped naked and dived into the front fish pond, "baptising" himself.
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Teaching lies.
by Anti-Christ inwhen a person no longer cares about the past, they will accept the present without question.
the witnesses we talked with are always interchanging the gb/faithful and discreet slave for example, even if you point out the origins of each.
doesn't matter.
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I like your post. I have recently been on some Bible Studies, and I am trying to get some real truth into them. One sister who was conducting asked the student why Jesus healed the woman with a flow of blood. The student answered that she had faith. So I brought out that Jesus healed a lot of people who didn't have faith, who didn't know who he was even. The sister didn't like it. Then I brought up disfellowshipping, but just briefly. The sister said later she never brings up controversial things with her students.
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Anyone from Kissimmee FL area?
by Alana ini wondered if there is anyone who is currently in the kissimmee fl area and who might know a childhood jw friend of mine who has lived down there for about 10+ years and just passed away.
please pm me if you know jim or jill madison.
thank you!.
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I knew a Madison, can't remember the first name, he lived in Los Angeles, then went to Bethel. After that I don't know where he moved.
Could that be him?
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why do you think child molester was so calm in my presence?
by looloo inin answer to the last comment on my previous topic, i decided to approach him at his work so there would be witnesses (in case he got aggressive , which i know he can be ) i needed some form of closure as he never actually went to prison for what he did to my daughter but other victims "minor" charges that he admitted to (he had no choice but to admit to them as his wife already knew about 2 of them and the elders knew about 1 )but untill i had reported him to the police after my daughters disclosure nobody had ever reported him before , had they done so my child would not have been raped and much worse !
any way considering he has told everyone that i got my daughter to make up stories about him that has got him a prison sentence and put on the sex offenders registar for life he was very calm when i appeared with no notice and even greeted me by my name , he tried to convince me my child made it all up and it was "all in her head" bla bla which you would think would make me want to hit him but i felt detached as though it was not really happening , i had waited years for that moment and didnt want to blow it by being violent and perhaps arrested , i told him what i thought of him very calmly and he even admitted something to me that he had denied to the police ,and the reason why my childs charges were dropped !
his answer to me about the way he had led his life was that he is an imperfect man with sinful desires !!!!!!!
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Also, looloo, do the other employees there know he is a child molester? Do THEY have children? Does his boss know? Do children ever go to that workplace? Interesting to see what you could do there.
I would love to put his face on a huge poster and anonymously put CHILD MOLESTER, BEWARE!!! on the company's front door.
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Anyone have a good Meeting for Field Service story?
by BonaFide inoh, yes those wonderful meetings for service.
for some reason, they are so long and disorganized and boring.
seems no one wants to get out there in the territory.. i remember in one hall when i was a teenager, a ministerial servant, about 50 years old, would conduct the midweek meeting for service at the kh at 9 am.
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Reniaa, you don't believe in JW's yourself, otherwise you wouldn't be disobedient to them by coming on here.
Ha ha, caught ya! Now I know you are embarrased.
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why do you think child molester was so calm in my presence?
by looloo inin answer to the last comment on my previous topic, i decided to approach him at his work so there would be witnesses (in case he got aggressive , which i know he can be ) i needed some form of closure as he never actually went to prison for what he did to my daughter but other victims "minor" charges that he admitted to (he had no choice but to admit to them as his wife already knew about 2 of them and the elders knew about 1 )but untill i had reported him to the police after my daughters disclosure nobody had ever reported him before , had they done so my child would not have been raped and much worse !
any way considering he has told everyone that i got my daughter to make up stories about him that has got him a prison sentence and put on the sex offenders registar for life he was very calm when i appeared with no notice and even greeted me by my name , he tried to convince me my child made it all up and it was "all in her head" bla bla which you would think would make me want to hit him but i felt detached as though it was not really happening , i had waited years for that moment and didnt want to blow it by being violent and perhaps arrested , i told him what i thought of him very calmly and he even admitted something to me that he had denied to the police ,and the reason why my childs charges were dropped !
his answer to me about the way he had led his life was that he is an imperfect man with sinful desires !!!!!!!
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LooLoo, how long was the Molester in prison? Is his job legitimate, I mean is he around children? Is he a registered sex offender?
I am thinking that one of the things that people always say to a child molester is that they are evil. That, in my opinion, doesn't work. People who are evil DON'T CARE when you tell them that, and it MAKES NO IMPACT on them.
I don't know how I would react to such a situation, I don't have any children. But in reflecting on your posts and on others posts, I think I would definitely attack their manhood. Anyone who would touch a child like that is not a man. I would imply in court that they are embarrased and humiliated because they are so inadequate that they tried to victimize a smaller person.
Something like that I think I would try.
If you got some closure with the way you spoke to him, good for you. I am just thinking of ways to impact the abuser.
If someone attacked my children I would definitely be in prison, and it wouldn't be for murder, they would be missing what they used as a weapon.
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Anyone have a good Meeting for Field Service story?
by BonaFide inoh, yes those wonderful meetings for service.
for some reason, they are so long and disorganized and boring.
seems no one wants to get out there in the territory.. i remember in one hall when i was a teenager, a ministerial servant, about 50 years old, would conduct the midweek meeting for service at the kh at 9 am.
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Here in the U.S. for the Circuit Overseer visit everyone goes out in service and the KH is unusually full and the C.O. makes all these weird car groups because he doesn't know the cliques and who hates who. So he would mistakenly assign a brother and sister who had dated and just broken up to the same car group. Or two sisters that never speak to each other. Or he would assign a brother with a gross car to drive.
In the parking lot after, everyone would change the arrangements.
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How old were you when you were baptized as a JW, and what was it like?
by BonaFide ini was baptized at 15 years old.
a brother toutjian gave the talk.
it was the circuit assembly.
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It's funny how I thought everyone else who got baptized felt like me. But what a difference in emotions, and reasons to get baptized as well.
The talks at the KH make it seem as if all baptisms are for the right reason.
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How old were you when you were baptized as a JW, and what was it like?
by BonaFide ini was baptized at 15 years old.
a brother toutjian gave the talk.
it was the circuit assembly.
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I wonder if God accepted my baptism
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How old were you when you were baptized as a JW, and what was it like?
by BonaFide ini was baptized at 15 years old.
a brother toutjian gave the talk.
it was the circuit assembly.
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I was baptized at 15 years old. A brother Toutjian gave the talk. It was the circuit assembly. I was so excited, so was my family. My unbelieving father showed up and hugged me. My mother cried. I thought it was the biggest day of my life. The pictures show my face as absolutely ecstatic. I was given a special-bound Bible and a nice bookbag right after I got my suit back on. My hair was still wet. I was interviewed in the afternoon on the program for Witnessing at school.
I mean, it really was a special day for me. Even now, when I realize it was for a corporation, to me it wasn't back then. I had no idea about the "Watchtower Corporation." I thought I had dedicated my life to God and was making a public declaration of that by water baptism. I wanted to serve God, I really did. I remember everything about that day, I felt like I had conquered the world, that I had answered Satan the Devil's challenge, and that Jehovah God had accepted me to be his servant. I felt absolutely fantastic.
And you, what was your baptism like?
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