My son and I were just discussing this last night. He works at a company where many witnesses are employed, and although he's not a witness, all the non-jw's there go to him for information. When he tells them he's not a witness, a lot of them (his age, early 20's) say, why? so what DO you believe?? and he said he realized that he doesn't think he believes anything. And I have to sympathize with that feeling. I've been trying to figure this out myself. When you say, "Sometimes I feel I have no foundation for any of my values" I can really relate to that. But I think maybe that's because we've been so conditioned to ascribe anything good within ourselves to the Bible and God.
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My radical shifts
by AK - Jeff infor the best part of 48 years of my life, most would not be able to separate the views i had at 18, with those i ended my witless career at 48.. now, over a period of 5 years, i have changed, molded, vascilated regarding spirituality, religion, god, sex, money, nationalism, etc, etc., almost more times than i can count.
my views are constantly morphing.
sometimes i feel like i have no foundation for any of my values.
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A question for you guys who edited your own "Revelation Climax (AntiClimax) Books
by Alpaca ini left in 1997 so i didn't enjoy the privilege of editing my personal copy of the book.. there was a thread on here a few years ago about it but i was left with the impression that it was just a few marginal notes.. now, on another thread there are comments about cutting and pasting stuff into the book.. just how extensive were the edits?.
i cannot believe the borg (sorry, yes i can) would direct such a bizarre exercise for publishers.
how many of you said wtf?.
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There was a supplement in the KM I believe, but some very zealous person in my husbands book study printed all of them out on self adhesive peel-and-stick sheets...I really had a hard time wrapping my mind around that one.
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A question for you guys who edited your own "Revelation Climax (AntiClimax) Books
by Alpaca ini left in 1997 so i didn't enjoy the privilege of editing my personal copy of the book.. there was a thread on here a few years ago about it but i was left with the impression that it was just a few marginal notes.. now, on another thread there are comments about cutting and pasting stuff into the book.. just how extensive were the edits?.
i cannot believe the borg (sorry, yes i can) would direct such a bizarre exercise for publishers.
how many of you said wtf?.
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There was a supplement in the KM I believe, but some very zealous person in my husbands book study printed all of them out on self adhesive peel-and-stick sheets...I really had a hard time wrapping my mind around that one.
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Artwork...post yours here
by coffee_black ingoing through some of my files... came across some photos of some artwork of mine... thought it might be fun to share with others here who are into art.
so post some of your artwork.
i painted this a couple of years ago... hope this works.... coffee .
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Homerovah, Awesome! Mojo was one of the first apps I ever bought...very very fun, but take a long time to render, at least with my computer they do. How does one attach a file here? Is it the Insert/Edit image?
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Artwork...post yours here
by coffee_black ingoing through some of my files... came across some photos of some artwork of mine... thought it might be fun to share with others here who are into art.
so post some of your artwork.
i painted this a couple of years ago... hope this works.... coffee .
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Homerovah, very nice!! Terragen or MojoWorld?
coffee_black, beautiful paintings! You're very gifted with depicting light in your work, which IMHO is the key to mood and evoking feelings.
I envy all who can draw and paint. I'm pretty restricted to digital tools myself, which is satisfying but the traditional arts still call to me...I agree that everyone can be creative if they find a medium that suits them. Nice work everybody, thanks for sharing!
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 3-8-09 WT Study (FOLLOWER)
by blondie inreview comments will be in red.
wt material from today's wt will be in black.
quotes from other sources will be in quotes boxes.
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Thank you Blondie, especially for the 94 WT excerpts on "Helping" Those With AIDS. I bet that really helped a lot....here they had a perfect opportunity to present accurate information to dispel the unfounded fears about "displays of physical affection" with those that are HIV positive and instead they chose to respect the hurtful behavior of the ignorant and uniformed, couching it as a "reasonable health precaution." I believe even 15 years ago it was well established that HIV cannot be spread by such contact. The person who wrote in objecting to the article was obviously crushed.
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Revelation Climax - book study question
by Roddy indoes anyone know how many times the revelation climax book (which was released in 1988) was studied in the congregation book study program up to now?.
in addition to how many times, if you know the years it was studied that would be helpful.
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The final string that was tethering me to believing this was the truth snapped when I watched my husband week after week cutting and pasting the 'revisions' for 2007 into his Revelation book. The irony of that whole thing, that they would set the flock to self-editing a book about the end times because it's information had become so old and out of date, and that my husband, who is one of the most intelligent people I know, would sit there without question whittling away on it, put me right over the edge.
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USHERED into the new system....they won't even be able to cross over into the paradise without somebody controlling them.
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Beat to Hell.......were you as a child as a JW?
by restrangled inthere was a scripture about a rod.......it seemed to be in every other watchtower.....it was an excuse to beat children.
i was a little girl.
i was beat with my pants down every time they could.
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I nearly didn't read this thread because this is horribly difficult subject for me. And even though my blood boils for each of you who told your experiences, it's good to know that I'm not just overly sensitive as I've been told and thought I was.
Anti-Christ, what you did is what I've wanted to do to every abuser in every kingdom hall I've ever been associated with. I've had to leave the hall on occasion because I felt that violent toward them. I'm very sorry this happened to you and your siblings, but I'm very proud of the way you ended it.
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Notes from 2008-2009 Special Assembly Day,Rosenburg,Texas 28Feb
by av8orntexas inthis was my first assembly/convention of any type since the 2002 convention at the dome in houston.
i do attend from time to time,probably enough to keep up with whats going on.
there is one experience i thought was a bit over the top.. 12:05 song no.
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I also had a friend whose 14 year old daughter was considered an "exemplary youth" in the congregation and was invited to participate in a circuit assembly program. She was given a list that they wanted her to claim was her weekly spiritual routine, however, some of the things on the list were not actually in her routine, for instance she didn't read the Bible every single solitary day and not for 15 minutes in the morning. That sort of thing. Well, she told the brother who was coordinating the part that she didn't feel comfortable claiming that this was her schedule, but he told her not to worry about it, just recite the list as given. Her mother and father (who was an elder at the time) went with her to speak to the brother, after which she was dismissed from the part. They found some other exemplary youth who was willing to say those things. At the time, 20 years ago, I was very disturbed by this but thought it was an isolated instance. I've found out since that it's quite commonplace.