What Is Truth?
Truth is what you don't have to make excuses for.
i was the one at the meetings who had a dictionary or at least a definition written in the margin.
i thought it was important to understand the meaning of words to better comprehend the lesson.
i liked that the writers would throw out words which were not commonly used to help us expand our vocabularies.
What Is Truth?
Truth is what you don't have to make excuses for.
feel free to add anything so i can add it to my email before i send it.. .
hi mom,.
everyone here is fine.
God supposedly created a rainbow to remind us all he will never wipe out humans again with a flood. But he will kill the majority of humans by any other means? Thats like me murdering someone with a knife, promising not to do it and then taking out a machine gun and blowing them all to bits. It makes no sense.
LOL.. I loved that part, thats rich.
I want to use that illustration now on someone.
i've been called a "fundi" many times in my discussions with people on the board, and i'd like to know what your definition is of a "fundi".
don't google it.
i just want to hear your personal definition.. i find it interesting because i don't go to any church.
brotherdan,
from reading your responses it seems your really big hang up is the bible.
I had similar issues a few years back because I was raised to believe everything that's in the bible is true or God's word.
It was all I ever knew.
From my youth up I had a profound respect,admiration and longing to read in it.
Heck I was one of those that never had to be "encouraged" to read it because usually I already was.
Then as I grew older and really researched and studied it, I started noticing gaps or "holes" in it.
This only made me want to study it even harder because I wanted to find something in it to fill in the holes.
I always felt like the "Bible" was airtight,watertight more so than even the best built ship.
Then the questions just wouldn't go away.
If Jesus was perfect and the son of God, why didn't he write any of the bible? Who would've been in a better position than him to accurately portray what God wanted to be written down?
And yet we find out not one word of all that is claimed as scripture in the bible was attributed to Jesus own hand.
It was always so and so wrote that Jesus said this or he said that. And then ask yourself why was the gospels written so much later after Jesus death? When someone tells you something today that is over say two paragraphs long, how much of it do you think you would remember in 30 years to write down verbatim?
Only after I was able to come to grips with the thought that the reason I felt the way I did about the bible was because of how I was raised to feel about it, did my mind start opening up to all the other possibilities.
If you or I had been born in China,India, Iraq,Iran, or any other of various countries around the world, the odds are high that we wouldn't have been raised with such an elevated view of the bible as God's word.
One day you too may have such an eureka moment or epiphany.
Don't rush it and enjoy your journey along the way. You may discover more about yourself than you've ever realized.
So the other day the boss came in to remind me that he was the boss and I am nothing.
So I reminded him that would make him the boss over nothing.
they aren't even made yet but the talk is there.
hobbits or whatever it will be called - prequel to lord of the rings.
1 or possibly 2 more bourne movies.
2 movies I'm looking forward too this year.
These will both be block busters.
From the ones that brought you X-Men,Spider-Man,Iron Man,Wolverine (Marvel Studios)
Number one is The Avengers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvL4iJy2PPw
Number two is Thor:
do you miss the "friends"?.
do you miss the meetings?.
do you miss field service?.
I'm a glutton for punishment.
So I miss the countless times being counseled about maybe my hair is getting too long, my tie is too flashy, my being late for meetings, talks about my meeting attendance in the "back room".
I was told many times how the young ones in the congregation looked up to me and how I should be setting an example for them.
Then one Elder hit the nail on the head when he said I was being an example.
An example of what not to do.
Ahhh the memories.
It's almost enough to make me go back and see what all they would like to counsel me on now...lol
http://www.jwbrothers.org/videos/1684/.
title edited, per posting guidelines.
scully.
beksbks said:
I agree with JO. Offensive term. My kids (and their friends when at my house) knew better than to use it.
What your kids know better than to use a totally acceptable and accepted word in the english language?
Homosexuals use it in Gay Pride parades(marches).
People that are happy may express feeling "gay". So you won't let your kids use it huh?
beksbks also said:
So what he is saying is that this is the merriest, happiest thing he's ever seen?
A vocabulary is a terrible thing to waste.
you know if you look under the word "gay" in the Websters New world college dictionary, definition number 4 states "wanton;licentious"
Maybe he meant it in that way. Not trying to answer for him but this rubs me the wrong way when someone acts like a word thats been around for ages is now all of a sudden no longer tolerable.
...so here it goes.... my story is of no consequence.
i've been reading a long time here and just wanted to say that you guys are all nuts.
and i mean that in the highest form of complement.
...so here it goes.... my story is of no consequence.
i've been reading a long time here and just wanted to say that you guys are all nuts.
and i mean that in the highest form of complement.
LOL
Now that is some nice first impression you have there Mr. Falcon
I like you already. :)
Welcome to the board!!
i've been reading this thread for some time and finally had the opportunity to create an account.
i am anxious to meet you all and have a support group/active audience over the next crucial months and years following.
background: long-time doubter, giving way to frustration and skepticism beginning about 10 years ago and finally to total admission that this is a cult and that atheism is the way to go.
Dariokehl said:
As far as "admitting it to myself," well... with that comes the difficulty of facing the fact that this life is all we have. It's kind of depressing at first and I was upset with myself for discovering this. NOW what??? I have nothing to hope for after this??? Yikes! The idea of never seeing dead loved ones was also very tough. But, something amazing happened...the anxiety and panic attacks that bothered me through the teens and 20s went away! I think the skeptic 9-year-old was clamoring to escape this cage he was in and the fairy-tale version of "happily ever after" in a peaceful new world never seemed real to me. This manifested itself in severe depression/anxiety. Why couldn't I buy in to this idea when so many intelligent adults around me believed it enough to bang on people's doors and try to convince them TOO??
The above paragraph struck a chord with me. I too suffered from severe anxiety/panic attacks years ago and only after I came to terms with the thought that the Watchtower Organization wasn't what they claimed to be (God's chosen representatives) did they cease.
All the time spent suffering from those panic/anxiety attacks,(some felt like they were going to turn into heart attacks with my chest beating so hard) evidently were triggered from an intense internal struggle because of me not wanting to admit fault with the organization. I was brought up in an atmosphere of where you didn't question the WatchTower. If you had an issue with something you just put it on a shelf in your mind, or to quote one brother"put it on the back-burner".
Very nice opening thread from you and I look forward to seeing more of them in the future.
Best wishes on your "Reasoning book" project.
Regards,
StoneWall