Hello Everyone...Just Joined Today

by DarioKehl 61 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • DarioKehl
    DarioKehl

    I've been reading this thread for some time and finally had the opportunity to create an account. I am anxious to meet you all and have a support group/active audience over the next crucial months and years following.

    Background: Long-time doubter, giving way to frustration and skepticism beginning about 10 years ago and finally to total admission that this is a cult and that atheism is the way to go. However, I'm still a member of the bOrg officially and will not reveal any identifying hints about my identity/whereabouts until after I make this leap.

    I also plan to do something active that few ExJWs have done well and I'll keep everyone updated about this project. Take it from me though, people my age and younger are fed up and this organization is about to start hemorrhaging members. I have never seen this much disenfranchisement before and the WBTS is obviously aware of it. For the first time in my life, they appear to be taking defensive measures.

    I'm a pretty decent character, not much into promoting my atheist agenda or engaging in petty ridicule by bantering or mudslinging (as I've seen a few times in these forums). My ultimate goal, or overall mission (with this new project on the horizon), is to prove the WBTS's Reasoning Book definition of "apostasy" WRONG. There are many, many examples on here and on the www where an active, "see-I-told-you-so" JW could reference to validate their loaded definition. I feel very strongly that JWs who discern the palatable change in tone and environment within the bOrg need an outlet--a place to go to that will not make that initial click of the mouse so painful when they begin their journey of independent thinking. Some websites are just plain scary and a questioning JW who already carries tremendous guilt and fear is likely to run for the hills after seeing certain "apostate" material. When debating, it's very important to engage them on their terms and try to embolden their naturally-driven instinct to search for understanding. As I become more and more acquainted with some of you, perhaps I'll eventually loosen up and lose the formal tone. For now, I will probably come across as a little pretentious, but please understand, I feel I have a reason to be as dignified as possible. Therefore, you won't see me using foul language or take a side in a heated argument between members of this board. (if you knew me in real life, you'd see the "party Dario" tho, ...trust me, I'm a very chill person, lol) It would be very "dub" of me to "counsel" you guys on that, so don't worry--I'd never do it. However, when I do create a new topic, please keep your posts dignified and remember who our audience is: scared, trapped, doubting people who are faced with making the most difficult decision of their lives and they need to feel safe and comfortable when visiting this page.

    Ok, I'm off my soap box. It's a good thing I'm not working on "gestures" because none of them are visible in text. Feel free to introduce yourselves! And if any of you are tech-savy, let me know...

    PHILIA! (no watered-down agape here, haha)

    DarioKehl

  • snowbird
    snowbird
    However, when I do create a new topic, please keep your posts dignified and remember who our audience is: scared, trapped, doubting people who are faced with making the most difficult decision of their lives and they need to feel safe and comfortable when visiting this page.

    Welcome!

    You stated the above so appealingly that it makes my heart swell.

    Syl

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    giving way to frustration and skepticism beginning about 10 years ago and finally to total admission that this is a cult and that atheism is the way to go.

    Welcome to the forum!

    Why do you feel the need to "admit to yourself" that "atheism is the way"?

    Atheism has a strong case and can be a perfectly healthy way to live ones life. I'd love to hear your thoughts on how atheism became so illuminated for you.

    -Sab

  • kimbo
    kimbo

    hello

    I am new here to and

    loving it.

    I am tired of the lack of love shown by the governing body.

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    Welcome!

    By your own admission, your very first post included you getting on a soap box. This should be fun.

  • Little Imp
    Little Imp

    Welcome, look forward to your further posts with interest.

    When attending meetings and they called people Apostates I used to wonder "how do they know" the dictionary says it is someone who has lost their faith and I could not understand how they could possibly know whether someone has lost their faith or not unless, of course, that person has actually told them this.

    Just a thought.

    LI

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    A big welcome to you.

    Background: Long-time doubter, giving way to frustration and skepticism beginning about 10 years ago and finally to total admission that this is a cult and that atheism is the way to go. However, I'm still a member of the bOrg officially

    That could be me, but even though I am officially a member, they haven't seen me at the Kingdom Hall for nearly 4 years.

    I'm a pretty decent character, not much into promoting my atheist agenda or engaging in petty ridicule by bantering or mudslinging (as I've seen a few times in these forums).

    Sorry about the bantering and mudslinging I participated in. I am much better now.

    I am not tech-savy, but look forward to whatever you are up to.

  • nugget
    nugget

    welcome to the board. Anything that helps others to be free of the guilt the society causes is a good thing. If you feel you have a way to communicate effectively with those still in I'm all for it.

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    My ultimate goal, or overall mission (with this new project on the horizon), is to prove the WBTS's Reasoning Book definition of "apostasy" WRONG. There are many, many examples on here and on the www where an active, "see-I-told-you-so" JW could reference to validate their loaded definition.

    I just have to tell you I love your first post.

    I know what you are referring to because I think sometimes I am a part of it. This community can get venomous at times.

    There has been a lesson have learned that I wish to share with you. You seem to be on a very similar road as I was on 10 months ago. I wanted to prove the Witnesses wrong with their over generalized term, then I could move on.

    That's not exactly how it turned out though. The first mistake I made was even bringing up apostasy to my Witness family and friends. They are trained to pick up on "doubts" and if a Witness starts talking about Apostasy then many of them start to go into panic mode.

    This panic mode is different for each person and is highly unpredictable!

    I suggest keeping your research to yourself until you have a very strong case. Not because they will even give it a second glance, but you will know it's worth even when they rebuke it because you put your heart and soul into it.

    Remember this as you take this path: you will be bloodied by the end, but it will be worth it. You will have more friends than you know what to do with and most importantly count every Witness out of your life. That way, if by chance, one does come around it will be a glorious occasion! Because the chances are grim for retaining any Witness associates that don't leave with you.

    -Sab

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    Welcome to JWN - we will be gentle during your initiation period.

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