dozy if I recall correctly the member on here known as Flipper successfully appealed his DF.
He maybe on later and can give more details to ya.
anyone had any experience of a successful appeal against a disfellowship?
a friend of mine feels he has been dfd unjustifiably & is considering an appeal.
he probably has something of a case - the jc was a total shambles - but i'm very dubious that he has any likelihood of success.. my only experience of a successful appeal is when elders in a neighbouring congregation were appointed by the co & overturned a df in our congregation a few years ago.
dozy if I recall correctly the member on here known as Flipper successfully appealed his DF.
He maybe on later and can give more details to ya.
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https://twitter.com/thetweetofgod.
some funny shit on there.... the universe is at 2% and i can't find my charger..
Oh now this one was really funny...
God: "I've reached a point in my career where I have nothing left to prove...including my existence"
LOL
when i first started posting again, i got a pm from lv101.
she and i both live in las vegas.
we have talked on the 'phone a few times, but today, we finally met for lunch.
Sounds like you had a great time!
It is always so good to hear about experiences like this because it shows that life truly does go on after leaving the JW's.
I've had some very good times and enjoyable meals with many ex-JW's and never once had a bad experience yet.
As of right now I've only met two in real life off this site and had a meal with them but I'm hoping to add many more in the near future from here.
The majority of ex'JW's I've dined with are ones I already knew in some fashion from surrounding congregations that had left either before me or around the same time. Even now I'm amazed at how many from my area left but most are afraid to post on exJW sites because of having a lot of family still in and don't want to chance being outted. But we still have so much fun when getting together and talking about the ole days of being in the Org.
so my husband (who was never a jw) saw a christian bumper sticker today and asked me if the witnesses have any.
i said no (not that i know of anyway) so here are a few he came up with.. 'honk if you're a zombie'.
'my other car is noah's ark'.
I don't need higher edumacation, I read the WatchTower and Awake fer years....which is even beter
so my husband (who was never a jw) saw a christian bumper sticker today and asked me if the witnesses have any.
i said no (not that i know of anyway) so here are a few he came up with.. 'honk if you're a zombie'.
'my other car is noah's ark'.
"Wherever two or three are gathered together".......is probably a judicial committee forming somewhere
Happy New Year everyone!!!!!!
what a wonderful holiday season!
time with family, time for fun, and in the midst of it all - we got married!
after christmas we were in palm springs for the weather and golf, but took off for nevada on thursday and tied the knot in a sweet, simple ceremony.
Congrats BB!
I've always heard about the birds and the bees. This just takes it to the next level
Hoping the best for both of you Bees,
StoneWall
on this new years eve, i'd like to start out by wishing all of you a happy new year and that it will be better in every way for you.. with that being said, what are some of the highlights of 2012 for you?
any major life changes?
any disappointments?
On this new years eve, I'd like to start out by wishing all of you a happy New year and that it will be better in every way for you.
With that being said, what are some of the highlights of 2012 for you? Any major life changes? Any disappointments? Did you receive any good news that actually exceeded your expectations in 2012?
Feel free to comment about anything that made a impact on you or your family over the last year.
Personally I had many good things happen over the year such as getting to meet up with some of my high school buddies that I hadn't seen in over 20+ years (was awesome time), going to a couple extended family members weddings, talking in person to a few more ex-JW's and finally going to my first casino. We got three new dogs this year. Also this was the first year in quite a while that I didn't have a very close relative pass away in death.
And at the time of my typing this even my favorite NFL team (Atlanta Falcons) are/is doing great and hoping to see them in the Super Bowl. (crossing fingers)
I've had some negative things happen over the year as well, a few health issues but nothing too serious.
One very sad part of my year was when I found out about our friend on here Oompa(Eric) taking his life. I've thought about him many times and how that I'll miss his Avatar popping up in the next year saying something witty,funny or even mentally stimulating at times.
Anyways I'll leave off with that for now but may add more to the thread later.
Now it's your turn.
What would you say about the year in review 2012?
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if god exists, wouldnt it make more sense for him to show himself today - now that we are a more enlightened people?
Xanthippe,
You are correct in that these are assumptions. Thats why I used the word assume. I never claimed otherwise.
You asked how could they prove it was real? I was just giving you what I would take as credible under the assumption "ghost" were real.
Remember the burden of proof is always on the one making the claim. (In this case someone claiming a picture of a ghost)
Displacement has nothing to do with this situation. Why should it leave residue?
If you can see it with your eye and take a picture its going to displace something to make itself visible.
But once again you could argue no it doesn't because its a ghost. To me this is like saying God can do anything. Then when asking him to appear thats the one thing he can't do or doesn't want to do.
So it would be pure speculation and assumptions on anyones part because noones proven ghost exist.
I've been in many so-called "haunted houses" that friends dared me to go into and never once saw or felt anything unusual. So I can only go on my personal experience. Thus that is why I don't believe in them to this day. Not one bit of evidence that they are anything other than peoples imagination running rampant.
Anyways I'm headed to bed but if you ever see a ghost or goblin,angel or demon, little green men from mars etc send them my way.
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if god exists, wouldnt it make more sense for him to show himself today - now that we are a more enlightened people?
Xanthippe,
Oh I love it when someone plays Devils advocate because at times I do it too.
And that is a very valid question you ask. So lets break it down. If someone claims they have a real picture of a ghost then obviously they would not object to others trying to prove their claim. So first thing is they would be willing to let others exhaust every possible avenue available to them to prove it was a fake. That would be step one to me in giving any credibility to such photo.
If after intense scutiny by professionals in many fields, such as Photography, Special effects (specializing in mirrors and lighting etc.) could find no evidence of tampering with such image then my next question would be to ask to see the area or room where the picture was taken.
If there was indeed a "ghost" or something in that area then it should be able to reproduce itself or left residual of some form from its earlier encounter. The principle of displacement would not allow "nothing" to take the place of where something used to be.
In other words if you fill your bathtub to its limit with water, then put a small toy boat in it, it will only displace the amount of water equal to the volume of the boat. No more no less.
So if something metaphysical was there it had to displace some surrounding air or matter of some form to take its place even if for only a brief time.
Even string theory would indicate that something changed in order to accomdate this.
So logically next step would be to get readings of the surrounding air, earth, radioactivity, radiant heat tests and imaging etc. and look for any "metaphysical/paranormal fingerprints" that may have been left behind.
Physical creatures leave something behind everywhere they go even if not intended, such as footprints,fingerprints,blood,mucus, urine etc. so it would only be natural to assume that whatever this "Ghost" was that it left something behind.
And while the tests were being performed also interview the individual(s) and ask every perceivable question that could help shed light onto this claim such as how long did the ghostly form stay? Did it try to communicate either directly or indirectly with you? Did it just disappear or did it head off into a particular direction? Have you ever encountered anything like this before? (Many other questions come to mind but won't list them in interest of time but you get the general idea)
And if after exhausting every scientific test/method available (or currently known to man) and the results were the same about something being there, then I would conclude that a paranormal/metaphysical being was in existence.