Posts by Mandette

in the old revelation book there was a section on the cry "peace and security.. "14 in recent years, politicians have used the phrase peace and security to describe various.

human schemes.

or was paul referring only to a specific event of such dramatic proportions.

Mandette

I remember being at a district convention in 1986, when they tried the "peace and security" thing. And the Middle East has been a hot mess for thousands of years. The weapons have just "improved".

blah blah blah.....

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That talk at the assembly where...

by ?evrything in

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...someone who was disfellowshipped ended up goin to a bar getting into a fight/getting preggo or somethin of the nature and then realized how pitiful their life had become.

they then 'prayed' to jah and wala the light clicked and they came back and feel better then ever!!.

sigh.

And I'm one of them. I left over 15 yrs ago. I didn't go get pregnant, get addicted to drugs/alcohol or land in jail. Life wasn't perfect but it was a hell of lot better than being in that cult! I've gone to college. I've got a career. I'm 7 years from retirement. I have a pension that I worked hard for. There's been bumps in the road. But it's nothing like what would've happened if I followed some chauvanistic elders advice.

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Just sent letter to my parents that I no longer want to be a JW

by ?evrything in

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i was a born in.

both parents are uber dubs and mother has been depressed lately.

so i m super nervous.

Mandette

WOW! ?evrything, you're brave. The best I could do is when my dad asked me if I believed it was the "truth" is to say no. He left it alone. I'm sure it was to keep our relationship intact. I wish the best to you. I do hope that parental love wins out over the cult mentality!

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I told the elders that I would take blood and donate blood

by Daniel1555 in

i found it important to be honest with my wife.

so i told her about my conscience decision that in a medical urgency i want blodless medicine but if a transfusion of blood or the 4 prohibited components is necessary to save my life or health i would accept it.

this would apply especially also for our child (that is not such a problem as in our country the wts recommends to comply with doctors as they have the right to decide concerning minors).. i showed her the reasons why i came to that conscience decision (biblical and logical reasons) and that jehovah and jesus do not like anyone to die because of this wrong bible application.. .

Mandette

Personally, I quietly made a medical power of attorney at my physician's office. I spelled out exactly what treatment I wanted and didn't want. I appointed someone close to me to act in my stead. When I got engaged to my now husband, I put him on on the form. Only those appointed know about it. They also have copies. It will keep the kooky JW family away from any medical decisions pertaining to me.

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Reminder about "You have a PM" topics

by Simon in

you don't need to post them !!.

people can see if they have a pm.. topics like this are simply noise and just make work to clean up so please don't post them..

Mandette

Simon,

Your thread made me look through my PM's. I found all the ones Oompa(Eric Reeder) and I exchanged. ~sigh~

Mandette

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Their New Grey Bible- Why the change?

by Shanagirl in

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it's been awhile since i've been here, but i just checked in the other day and have kind of been lurking and reading.

so, what's the purpose of the change in the jw nwt?

are they re-writing everything to go along with their new light?

Mandette

My mother said, "It's in a more simple language and more in line with the original writings." UGGGG!

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Getting Stuck on the Idea of Closure

by OnTheWayOut in

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i may be suffering twice for having left the jehovah's witnesses and watching my jw wife and other family members stay in.

once for the changed situation (or loss) and another time for expecting to make progress in getting over it.. the 1969 book on death and dying by elisabeth kubler-ross introduced us to the kubler-ross model , commonly referred to as the " five stages of grief.

" they are very helpful, but the original idea of the book and the hypothesis was that when a person is faced with the reality of impending death , he or she will experience a series of emotional stages: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance.. it isn't always the case, but those stages are often felt by terminally ill patients.

Mandette

OTWO, How sweet of you! You did make me feel like I'm not the only one who has "issues" years later. I've had people say "get over it". But it's just not that simple. It always manages to rear it's ugly head. The damage done is extensive and so unnecessary.

Yes, you're definitely not alone and neither am I.

Thank you again. ((Hugs))

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Getting Stuck on the Idea of Closure

by OnTheWayOut in

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i may be suffering twice for having left the jehovah's witnesses and watching my jw wife and other family members stay in.

once for the changed situation (or loss) and another time for expecting to make progress in getting over it.. the 1969 book on death and dying by elisabeth kubler-ross introduced us to the kubler-ross model , commonly referred to as the " five stages of grief.

" they are very helpful, but the original idea of the book and the hypothesis was that when a person is faced with the reality of impending death , he or she will experience a series of emotional stages: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance.. it isn't always the case, but those stages are often felt by terminally ill patients.

Mandette

OTWO,

I don't post here much, but I read here frequently. What you posted made perfect sense to me. I've been out 18 years. I'm still absolutely pissed at the deception fostered upon my family(allowing for personal responsibility). It's caused no end of heartache for my family. Please take care and know that you're not alone. Thank you for your eloquent post.