Posts by excito-are

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UK Kingdom halls situated in terrible areas

by excito-are in

as some one who who has travelled britian well, i must make known an observation.

almost all kingdom halls are in really bad areas.

fron travelling around scotland i see in edinburgh, glasgow, kilbrinie, bellshill , hamilton, kirkcaldy, glenrothes, methil, dundee, aberdeen, inverness, the halls are in a terrible place where unemployment is rife, drug taking common place and just downright poverty and crime is seen.

excito-are

As some one who who has travelled Britian well, I must make known an observation. Almost all Kingdom halls are in really bad areas. Fron travelling around Scotland I see in Edinburgh, Glasgow, Kilbrinie, Bellshill , Hamilton, Kirkcaldy, Glenrothes, Methil, Dundee, Aberdeen, Inverness, the Halls are in a terrible place where unemployment is rife, Drug taking common place and just downright poverty and crime is seen. Is this a policy where KH are set up in areas where witnesses arrive and leave seeing the depths of society living and interpret it as the world being in such a bad state? What is it like elsewhere around the ~World?

Excito

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Why Jehovahs's Witnesses keep growing

by truthseeker in

it's a numbers game with the watchtower society - they love them.. numbers are everwhere - your time sheet, the number of minutes for talk # 2, the number of anointed, number partaking, number of times jesus arrives.. so why is the watchtower society still growing?.

answer?

there teachings work, for the most part.

excito-are

Because they are greedy bastards who eat and drink too much!!

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Just How Important is the CO Visit For The R&F?

by sacolton in

co is visiting this week and they stress not to miss a meeting during his stay.

you'd think god himself was in town.

what's the big deal?

excito-are

When I was about 12 years old, I was not allowed to watch the t.v series Quantum leap. (strict household) The c.o stayed with us one time and asked if he could watch it, after we were all back from a meeting. Well, this was almost God himself saying, " Thou shall be able to watch Quantum leap". Every Tues evening thereinafter, I was able to watch it. I thought our c.o was the coolest man about.

Hey, who needs the salvation of christ anyway, when you have the c.o's.

Rock on JW world.

Excito

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Jesus was sexually abused

by excito-are in

after attending a recent lecture on the priesthood of christ by alan torrance some interesting information was given regarding the abuse suffered by christ at the hands of the roman soliders.

in short, during that time period the soliders would sexually abuse their prisoners.

" the bible describes jesus as being stripped and mocked which is in fact code being sexually abused by the roman soliders.

excito-are

After attending a recent lecture on the Priesthood of Christ by Alan Torrance some interesting information was given regarding the abuse suffered by Christ at the hands of the Roman soliders. In short, during that time period the Soliders would sexually abuse their prisoners." The bible describes Jesus as being stripped and mocked which is in fact code being sexually abused by the Roman soliders. " (Torrance).

The point of Jesus being fully human and experiancing the full blows of being betrayed by best friends, humilated, oppressed, tortured is that God takes all that is human experiance to know man to and then enable man to get to know God. In essance taking what is ours so we might have what is his. This is the first time I had come across this information. Not sure if any of you had read any on this?

Excito

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Brothers who were Gay but couldn't admit/accept it! Did you have some?

by Witness 007 in

i have come to realize that being gay is something you are just born with....so why judge them if it's like being born a certain race.. a brother g_____ i knew was a zealous pioneer pushing 43 years old.

he never married though the sisters thought he was dreamy and he had plenty of offers....."she's not for me" he would always, many times tell me some excuse.

he loved to give only brothers a big hug...say if you gave a public talk or something.

excito-are

A young kid has recently ran away from my local hall because he is gay. I know this may sound stupid but me and my mates remember when he was 8 years old and we knew he was going to be gay by the way he walked and talked. Nice guy but people started being real nasty to him when he entered his teens.
His mum and dad have said he has mental problems and needs help so that has stopped him getting the big D. No one ever talks about him and he is a non person now (1984).

Sad Sad, but a least he is away from all the crap in the hall

Excito

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Death of JW ideology - Soon?

by excito-are in

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being a scotsman i find myself pround of the history of scotland.

however, there are many events that took place in scotland that are simply shameful.

consider the time period of 1500 - 1650 where in scotland over a 1,000 woman were burned at the stake accused of being a witch.

excito-are

Good points raised. One of the reasons the Watchtower fear education so much is the fact it gives people crictical thinking skills. Dumb down your members and the more control you are likely to have over them.

Time will end up killing many of the phophecies, consider the fact God gave final notice of his judgements through the trumpet blast described in revelation during the 1920's, this will become even more ridiculous during the next 100 years, along with all those illustrations of the separating work in the last days, like the fish (persons) that was suitable and the fish thrown away into the fire of destruction. What is the point of all this when the fish (persons) that are thrown away are to be resurrected again because of passing away naturally. They will have to eventually rewrite most of the phophecies related to 1914 - 1919 which is all most all of them, and that will test a huge number of them.

Information from the internet as said, should slow up any real progress in growth numbers, that said my mum is having a study with a teacher and also a doctor which does surprise me.

I guess it's a tough one to call.

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Death of JW ideology - Soon?

by excito-are in

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friends

being a scotsman i find myself pround of the history of scotland.

however, there are many events that took place in scotland that are simply shameful.

consider the time period of 1500 - 1650 where in scotland over a 1,000 woman were burned at the stake accused of being a witch.

excito-are

Being a Scotsman I find myself pround of the history of Scotland. However, there are many events that took place in Scotland that are simply shameful.

Consider the time period of 1500 - 1650 where in Scotland over a 1,000 woman were burned at the stake accused of being a witch. This was a common ideology supported by the Church all over Europe. Many beleived woman being weaker than man were more tempted by the devil. Stories of men being stung by a bee were sufficent at time to prove that a woman with a grudge against that man had turned herself into the bee and stung him for revenge. King James vI of England and I of Scotland stated " God would not allow an innocent woman to be accused of withcraft if she was innocent, therefore all woman accused of witchcraft are guilty" With the progess of the enlightenment this chapter in history was closed and people wised up the fact that witchcraft, curses, e.c.t was nonsense.

Fast forward 350 years from all that, and we look back and think how could anyone beleive that. Which brings me to JW ideology today. With most of the phophecies being fulfilled according to JW and 144,000 doctrine to name but a few teachings,remember these ideas are crazy to any logical mind at the moment, then how will they appear to anyone with little intelligance in 100 years? Even without another new enlightenment this ideology is really on shaky ground. We should not underestimate mankind and his ability to move forward from strange idealogies, even though it may take hundreds of years.

What are your thoughts?

Excito

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So why ARE women allowed to speak at congregation meetings?

by easyreader1970 in

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the apostle paul said that women should be silent in congregation meetings and not flap their traps.

if they need to talk about something, they can talk about it with their husband when they get home.

so why does the wbts pick and choose which verses they apply and which they do not?

excito-are

Not even God alone can stop a woman talking, so how could the watchtower!!!

hehe, just kidding ladies

Excito

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Is the World Overcrowded?

by cameo-d in

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after playing on google earth today, i couldn't help but wonder if certain places on earth are considered "over crowded".. seems usa and uk are almost totally surveillance societies.

i clicked on a camera and scrolled all over usa.

there are many major cities and densly populated areas that are marked in blue camera surveillance.

excito-are

The world is not over crowded, but merely under developed.

For instance, there are growing myths about population that it lowers per capital economic growth! That is nonsense, only take a look at the UN data population and human development report from 2007 to see the amount of countries improving with population growth. Remember people are a resource too.

The supply of natural resources are finite. Again Nonsense, Man always finds new resources. The romans used wood for heating and building, then we went onto coal,recently oil and gas and when they run out man being ingenuis as he is will find something else or use existing power, wind, sun e.c.t and develop that for energy.

Countries are too cramped with people. Nonsense, foe example Hong Kong has a population densitie of 5,871 person per sq.km. But Canada has a population densitie of 3 per sq.km. China 128 persons per sq.km, Africa 48 persons per sq.km and the UK 241 persons per sq.km. I stay in scotland and the land mass is the same as England yet we have 5 million persons here while they have closer to 60 milion. Plenty of land left.

If the world went vegetarian you could feed 80 billion people no problem every year. Which I would hate, how could anyone give up a bacon roll, I don't know?

Any calculations of any future population celing must depend on simple speculation about - the future state of technology and the future state of the world economy.

~This has been a long running argument between the neo-Malthusians or Ecological pessimists vs The economic optimists.

I have written a number of essays on the subject and my conclusions are that under current capitalism the gap between poor and rich nations has never been greater, For instance Nigeria is a oil rich country, but infant mortality has went slightly up and standard of living not moved up. Due to corruption it does not invest into their soco-economic infrastructure and with the world bank and IMF demanding money back from Countries in Africa when they experiance drought and famine it will only get worse. But with any doubt man has the answers to sort this out, but whether he has the desire is entirley another question.

Excito

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As of tomorrow I will no longer be a JW

by passwordprotected in

after my last post where i asked for advice on how to handle whether i should tell an elder that we've been going to church, i decided to tell a local elder who's related to me through marriage.

this was to save my dad having to 'report' me (i'd told my dad we go to church).

anyway, i had an interesting chat with him and he said some very personally revealing things re.

excito-are

Fade or getting DF. Which is better?

There is only one wat to find out

FIGHT!!!!!!

Come on Fade, get stuck in.

Excito