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  Wow I'm getting married

  by lauralisa in

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  he asked me on friday night.

  wow.

  he's the man of my dreams, and i'm so happy i was able to meet him.

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  Congratulations and thank you for sharing your happy news with us. Let us know the date!
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  Exercise support group

  by hungry4life in

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  we have had some posts concerning body size, build and weight and it seems to be an issue that concerns many of us.

  well ok i am tired of complaining about feeling out of shape and i am finally ready to do something about it.

  i started jogging tonight not a whole lot (1 1/2 miles in a jog/walk combo).

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  lol wick. No Prisca I did not listen to music but that is a great idea and I will do that tommorow. As for today's entry I did not do so well. I went to Costco (grocery shopping) after school and I did not make it home until after dark. I did not feel that it was safe to go jogging in the dark (the area is poorly lit). So I missed my exercise tonight. I guess if I look on the bright side my whole motive in going grocery shopping was to make sure I had lots of healthy food at home ( it doesn't do any good to jog and then go eat at McDonalds). So at least now I will be eating healthier (all the rest of you single people know how easy it can be to neglect grocery shopping and just eat out). So I guess it was not a total loss. This is the reason I started this post to force myself to have some accountability. When you are alone you can put things off for months without even realizing your excuses have gone on for so long. But this way when I do my nightly post I will have a running log of my progress.
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  guilt of having to give evidence against family

  by chezza in

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  hi all, just wondering if anyone else like me had to give evidence in judical cases involving their family members and how they got over the guilt when they realised what they had done?

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  Chezza your post hit home. Even though I have not discussed it in great detail on this board. One of the most painful things I have gone through is having to accept that it was my actions in going to the elders about my husbands smoking that led to our divorce. At the time I was sure that I was doing the right thing we had two young children (a 5 yr old and 6 month old) and we had been very happily married for 7 years. When I discovered that he had been secretely smoking at work I was terrified that if I kept his smoking a secret I would be just as guilty as him and it would cost us our children's lives at armageddon. In addition I felt a certain sense of pride in being "spiritual" enough to do what was "right" regardless of how difficult it was. It is a long story and I will not share it all now, but it eventually led to total despair and depression for him. He was 35 years old and actually broke out in shingles from the stress. It created a terrible wedge between us and he could not take the pain anymore. He told me later that he just felt like he was not good enough and was going to die anyway so their was not point in trying.
  While I was away at a convention he had a fling with a woman he had just met. When I came home on Sunday he was very distraught but would not tell me why. He moved out the next day, and disassociated himself shortly after.

  It has been almost 4 years since this happened. Since our seperation and divorce we have discussed the situations that led up to the rapid and unexpected end of our marriage. We have both taken responsibility for our actions in the things that led up to the end. We have forgiven each other for the mutual pain that we caused each other.
  But we also agree that if we had just gotten out together we would still be a family. When I think back to all the pain and guilt the WT inflicted on our lives it brings tears to my eyes. We are still friends but their are some things that cannot be erased and we were never able to heal the harm that was done to our relationship. He remarried a nice non JW woman in December. Her and I get along well and though I did not go into detail I did warn her not to fall into the JW quick sand.

  I think that the most important thing for anybody who has gone through this pain and guilt to do is to reach out to the one you hurt and explain your remorse and regret. Let them know that you are not the same person now and you will never again look at someone with eyes of judgement.
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  WTBTS responds to my friends letter (scan)

  by hungry4life in

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  here is the response my friend got from the wtbts.

  in her original letter she respectfully stated her questions about 1914 and poured her heart out about her concerns on other doctrinal issues.

  she sincerely requested help and wrote about feeling torn by the contradictions she had come accross in her personal study.

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  I also find it interesting that the first sentence says "among the many readers of The Watchtower who write in for information are some who ask personal questions to to which they want scriptural answers.....". Then in describing the process through which letters are answered it says "...a personal answer will be sent and in many cases reference will be made to the Watchtower publications that discussed the point in question.

  Well at least they are being honest people want scriptural answers but what they get are referrals to the Watchtower.

  For those of you wondering how my friend is doing she is hanging in there. An elder and his wife stopped by her house on Sunday and inquired about her absence at meetings. He is new to her congregation and didn't even come in just grilled her at the door. She was vague in her response and he continued to press her, She said it was wierd like she's just supposed to spill her guts in 2 minutes just because he asks. Then when she refused to get any more specific he said "ok we will be back". She is not sure what he meant by this or who he will be back with. So you can imagine she is a little nervous.

  Her husband was kind of surprised and said "man I guess they do watch you kind of close" he said if they came back again he would tell them not to bug her. He is not baptized or a publisher just studying so I am guessing he may be able to get away with that. I don't think this visit is in anyway related to the letter she wrote but instead is due to her letting her kids stay at the Valentines party and the fact that she has missed a lot of meetings. I saw her on Friday and gave her the disc with all of your info and encouraging remarks I also gave her a packet of information from a domestic violence center. I told her I had posted this letter and read her the first 5 comments earlier today. She wanted to know if others had similar expeeriences with WTBTS refusing to give information or sending other responses. I will wait a few days then save this thread and mail it to her. Thanks for all your help and support.
  edited because I accidentally bolded almost the whole post
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  Taking a Trip With My Lady Friend

  by gilwarrior in

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  this weekend i went out with my lady friend.

  we were talking about places that we wanted to travel to and about her birthday on march 15. we were talking about miami when i jokingly mentioned, "wouldn't it be cool if me and you could go to miami for your birthday?

  " it was just a joke, but much to my surprise she told me, "yeah that would be a great idea!

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  Gee no wonder you are confused, their seem to be some mixed messages here. My advice to you is don't assume anything keep an open mind and just go with the flow (of course this means being discreetly prepared for any possible situations i.e. bring condoms) But not neccesarily that anything more than friendship will take place.

  I have traveled to many places with friends of the opposite gender with no hanky panky involved. Of course I was up front about my feelings (as your lady friend seems to have been). Most of the time this has worked out just fine. One time a guy got really upset with me and said that he had been sure I would change my mind. I wound up leaving and making other accomodations for lodging as well as traveling on my own the next day. He apologized later on and we continue to be friends (this has never been an issue again).

  I think that most of the men I have traveled with respect my being upfront about my expectations and of course I pay my own way. Are you paying for the trip? I mean I realize it is her birthday but I don't think a lady should expect a gentleman to pay for everything. Especially if they are just friends. After all friendship is a two way street.

  If nothing happens on this trip don't assume that you don't have a chance with this lady. It may very well be that she will come to appreciate the real you even more as well as be impressed by your respect towards her. If nothing else then have a good time and just enjoy Miami!

  In case anyone is wondering why a woman would go away with a man she is not romantically involved with I will post a few of my reasons. I love to travel and many of my girlfiends have children or husbands that would not allow them to make the trip. Traveling in groups is safer than traveling alone, not to mention more fun. It is a great way to get to really know someone. Expenses are lessened when you share a room. You have someone to talk to when you get home who understands what a great time you had and is just as eager as you are to see your vacation videos.

  It's funny the elders used to say that if two people were in a home alone for over 2 hours their motives were suspicious. I have been in a motel room with a guy for days at a time with out any sexual activity,and "worldly" guys at that.

  If anything is going to happen make sure that she makes the first move, heck let her throw herself at you. This way you will be sure not to jump the gun and assume something that could ruin your trip and friendship. Also with all the weird mixed messages she is sending you she may not know what the heck she wants so play it cool and make her beg for it :D . Above all else be respectful but don't let her use you, set your financial limits.
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  How do I post a WT letter (scanned)?

  by hungry4life in

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  hi my friend received a reply to the letter she had written to the wtbts.

  i asked her for permission to post it and she agreed.

  i have scanned it but i am not sure how to post it.

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  thanks for the help guys. SF I have posted the letter under the heading WTBTS responds to my friends letter (or a similar title). As I mentioned in that post I could not get everything uploaded into the webphotos page but I did manage to get the main letter on (it turned out kinda small though).
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  Exercise support group

  by hungry4life in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we have had some posts concerning body size, build and weight and it seems to be an issue that concerns many of us.

  well ok i am tired of complaining about feeling out of shape and i am finally ready to do something about it.

  i started jogging tonight not a whole lot (1 1/2 miles in a jog/walk combo).

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  We have had some posts concerning body size, build and weight and it seems to be an issue that concerns many of us. Well ok I am tired of complaining about feeling out of shape and I am finally ready to do something about it. I started jogging tonight not a whole lot (1 1/2 miles in a jog/walk combo). But considering that I have always hated running this is a huge accomplishment for me. I am slowly going to increase my distance and actual jog time. I am putting up this post because I can use some encouragement. also since I come on this board everyday I figure I can post my daily accomplishments and keep a running tab of it. Don't worry I won't do it forever(the posting I mean) just 2 weeks or so until I get into the habit. If anybody else out there is exercising and needs support please post on here. Sort of a virtual work out partner.
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  WTBTS responds to my friends letter (scan)

  by hungry4life in

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  here is the response my friend got from the wtbts.

  in her original letter she respectfully stated her questions about 1914 and poured her heart out about her concerns on other doctrinal issues.

  she sincerely requested help and wrote about feeling torn by the contradictions she had come accross in her personal study.

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  Sorry for the small size of that scan. I could not even read it. What did I do wrong? How do I enlarge it? Does it have to do with the amount of Jpeg compression? If so what should I set it at? If anybody can help me out by posting the letter and article please let me know so I can email you my scans. Thanks
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  WTBTS responds to my friends letter (scan)

  by hungry4life in

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  2. friends

  here is the response my friend got from the wtbts.

  in her original letter she respectfully stated her questions about 1914 and poured her heart out about her concerns on other doctrinal issues.

  she sincerely requested help and wrote about feeling torn by the contradictions she had come accross in her personal study.

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  Here is the response my friend got from the WTBTS. . In her original letter she respectfully stated her questions about 1914 and poured her heart out about her concerns on other doctrinal issues. She sincerely requested help and wrote about feeling torn by the contradictions she had come accross in her personal study. she had originally sent a letter in November and received this food at the proper time in late February

  I could not post the photocopy of the Watchtower article that the WT letter refers to (I tried several time and could not get it loaded on web photos.com) so I have typed out the text to that Questions from readers section. You can verify it in the bound volumes (it is pathetic but not controversial) or if you would like me to email you a scan of it just post the request on the board and I would be happy to do that.

  Questions from Readers
  Please anwer my question in the Watchtower.-unsigned
  Among the many readers of The Watchtower who wriete in for information are some who ask personal questions on which they want a scriptural answer, but who give no name or address. Others give an address but no name. For the benefit of all, we would like to set out here the policy of the Watchtower Society in answering questions recieved.
  The Society is gald to be of help to all who sincereely sek answers to questions that call for a bible answer. First of all, a personal answer is sent by mil to the one who inquires. Then those questions that are of sufficient interest and importance are printed itn this Questions from Readers section of the Watchtower. Questions of a personal nature are of concern only to the ones involved, so these are not published. In other cases the questions asked are ones that have been ansered in recent issues of The Watchtower; of course, these will not be printed again right away, but a personal answer will be sent and, in many cases , reference will be made to the Watch Tower publications that discuss the point in question.
  However, it is the policy of the Watch Tower Society never to answer correspondance that does not bear the name of the inquirer. So let all that wish to avail themselves of the help that the publishers of the Watchtower give in providing scriptural answers to questions of a personal or doctrinal nature give their name (not merely initials)and address so they may be certain to get direct and personal attention.

  that' all folks. that is the long awaited response from the WTBTS to a faithful sister searching for answers. Over 3 months of waiting only to be directed to a 40 year old article stating that they do not answer anonymous letters(funny how they haven't had any new light on that issue). Why not answer anonymous letters? If Jehovah entrusted them with disbursing this life saving knowledge world wide and to all the inhabited earth then who cares what her name is? I loved the end of the article where it says that by including your name and address you can be assured of getting direct and personal attention. Oh Yeah I bet it will be direct and personal and in the form of a Judicial Commitee (ahhh Jehovah's loving provisions).

  As you look at the letter notice the letter coding at the top the ECE:ECZ right before the date. Does any one know excactly what this coding means? I have seen it on other posted WT letters as well. My guess is that it is an identification code and that if they see it posted here they can look up where it originally came from. I realized this after I had scanned it and to be honest I didn't bother to cross it out because I realldon't care what they think or do (she used my p.o. box so it would not mean any trouble for her) I am just posting this thought in order to make others aware of the possibility if they are going to post similar letters. (If I am wrong about this coding then please correct me).

  When my friend first read the letter she was sad and disgusted but said that in the last 3 months she had come to understand so much more truth about the society that she was not surprised by their callous and mechanical response.
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  How do I post a WT letter (scanned)?

  by hungry4life in

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  hi my friend received a reply to the letter she had written to the wtbts.

  i asked her for permission to post it and she agreed.

  i have scanned it but i am not sure how to post it.

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  Hi my friend received a reply to the letter she had written to the WTBTS. I asked her for permission to post it and she agreed. I have scanned it but I am not sure how to post it. Is it the same as a pic? do I have to put it on webphotos.com? one page is the reply and the other two are front back scans of a WT article they sent. I appreciate your help.