Metatron,
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sounds absurdly ambitious, doesn't it?
follow my thinking here and you'll understand what i mean.. i believe in the godhead concept, not a personal creator ( who would be a lunatic for making t rex, guinea worms and countless other horrors).
so, i see "god" in everything as consciousness fills the universe and maintains it.
Metatron,
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i personally believe they do not, but what solid evidence can you provide me so i can try to convince others?.
"By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another"
- John 13:35
These are the plain words of Jesus Christ himself. Jehovah's Witnesses claim to be the only TRUE followers of Jesus on this earth.
I've spent time with Jehovah's Witnesses. So have most of you. What does your experience tell you? Mine tells me that Jehovah's Witnesses do not have love for EACH OTHER, much less the world at large, that His Father loved so much...
Therefore, the logic flows easily from here...
Either, Jesus Christ himself told a lie, or was wrong, OR...Jehovah's Witnesses are liars regarding being followers of Jesus Christ. These are the only 2 possibilities. Only one can be correct. In my experience, most Jehovah's Witnesses are content to essentially call Jesus Christ a liar, so long as their 'religion' appears correct.
So which is it, Witnesses? Is Jesus lying to me, or are you?!
And these people anxiously await a Judgement Day?!
That's how I KNOW they do not have the Truth. It's either THEM or Jesus Christ himself. Pick one...
That is all.
all comments welcome.
love.
wobble.
I would imagine that without religion to prod...humans would be killing and enslaving each other over which interpretation of Quantum Theory they hold to.
Just because religion is gone doesn't mean humans would embrace rationality. I see religion as merely a tool. At the heart of the matter is human nature. We must evolve further.
after years in a high-control group i cannot seem to accept any form of control from an organisation.
i am fascinated to know how others cope with finding another group to asscociate with.
i am so cynical i might never be able to be a part of any group again!
I like this post!
I explained to my friends that I think my JW upbringing has lots to do with my politics (libertarianism) and general distrust of authority and opposition to initiations of force against an individual.
Totally immune from collectivist BS that would sacrifice my rights and well being for some nebulous 'group'.
i have a jw friend who i watch sports with.
his wife is not a dub.
he has a daughter from a previous marriage who is gay.
Tea baggers have no compassion at all.
And is that 'compassion' coming out of the gun you're having government aim at those of us who differ with you? A person with a different sense of charity than you means they don't have one?
Look at the liberal open-mindedness. Always willing to grab goverments gun and turn it on someone for the 'greater good'. Why is your own brand of intolerance so preferable? Because it's yours?
i don't really understand the phenonoma.. .
Besty - back to my conveniently ignored point:
Legislation could not keep people form obtaining alcohol when restricted, it cannot keep people from obtaining drugs deemed illegal. How are guns somehow different?
well at least i know it from my own friends and geographic region........... but i will wait to hear your response....i am fourth gen btw...and unfortunately birthed.... and did a good job at raising a fifth dammit....oompa.
Hi Tuesday:
Oh yes, THEY might think you will return someday. In fact, my poor mother has set her life to revolve around that day. But I can say that when I decided to leave, it wasn't with any intent of returning. What did you think when you left? Did you think you would come back? If so, why leave in the first place?
I had seen and heard enough to know what it was. I knew what I wanted out of life, I knew what the 'religion' had to offer. I knew it had failed me miserably as a child, and I would allow it to fail me no more.
I'll say that the lack of another frame of reference in life is absolutely crippling to a born-in. This is what makes it such a herculean effort to leave. It's like stepping off a cliff only because the lions are bearing down and there's nowhere to go.
i don't really understand the phenonoma.. .
Besty, you seem willing to make an incredible leap of faith...namely, that people who are willing to break into your house will stop violating your rights when they have control of your posessions. What's to stop them from violating your right to continue living?
Seems like an awful lot to gamble. Especially when we're talking about people that are already willing to invade your home. You have that much faith in criminals? Good luck with that. I don't trust criminals so much.
i don't really understand the phenonoma.. .
Yup, less guns is the best solution. It's also not workable or realistic.
Are there any other items prohibited by law that can't be bought out of somebody's trunk with a wad of cash?
i took today off work due to a family reunion.
at around 0845 i found myself in the local mickeydee's for a coffee.
while sitting there almost ready to go, in walks a tall, very unhappy looking man, followed by his son [i assume] of about 12. the man was dressed like jw's sans the jacket - the boy in a full suit.. what struck me was the absolute look of unhappiness on both faces.
Are you sure they don't know how trapped they are? Maybe what you see on their faces is the result of a slow, relentless realization.
I sure as hell felt trapped at 10 and 11 years old. I knew I was in prison. Question was: did I want to sign on for life?