Not for nothing, I think your SON is fantastically lucky to have you as a father!
You are here, asking for HELP, with your son's future in mind!
How old is your son?
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by Freedom rocks inhi i haven't posted for a while but i have a question and would appreciate any advice offered.
i left the cult 2 years ago and i'm so happy now.
i struggled at first and with the help of the lovely men and women on here i got stronger and started to find myself and ive grown as a person (i'm not being told who i am or who i should be anymore).
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by Freedom rocks inhi i haven't posted for a while but i have a question and would appreciate any advice offered.
i left the cult 2 years ago and i'm so happy now.
i struggled at first and with the help of the lovely men and women on here i got stronger and started to find myself and ive grown as a person (i'm not being told who i am or who i should be anymore).
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The LONG VIEW is all that matters.
If you can't control the day-to-day...
Then you must strive to influence the year-to-year
because THAT!
I assure you...is a contest the JW life cannot hope to win...in the mind of a teenager...
You simply must give every appearance of tolerance, open-mindedness, long-suffering....
while THEY bother themselves to afford NOTHING of the sort...
These 'differentials' will not go unnoticed in the minds of the young people...
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Divorce/Terms of Agreement
by SFSDGUY ini'm a first time poster and i apologize if this topic has been discussed before.
when i met my wife she was disfellowshiped and were happy, got married, and had a kid.
after we had our daughter she got reinstated so her family and her jw "friends" could spend time with our daughter.
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Don’t know your child’s age, but being a JW child SUCKS. Chances are, this child will not remain in the faith, as 2/3 of kids raised JW leave. Show your child unconditional love, and the good life outside of the organization.
Good comment! Now, the successes are pursued and attained via the LONG GAME. Got to apply LONG TERM THINKING in dealing with your kid.
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What Are Your Predictions for 2020 and Beyond?
by The Bethelite in2020 the society will continue to have financial problems with massive pay outs because of their lack of protecting their young people from a religion that harbors thousands of pedophiles.
thus this and other religions that has an 1800's mentality will continue to lose their young people.
with the religion's lies easily found on the internet the smart ones will continue to leave in droves.
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2020 District Convention will be THE BEST EVER!
2020 We will be closer to Armageddon than ever before! In the last tenths of a second in the 2 minute warning!
2020 God will need more money
2020 Bunker sales will be way up! Invest now!!
From a certain vantage point, this is astounding!
They don't even have the benefit of the perspective of their own lives!
They've got to pretend that all the wasted time and effort...never was. Like it never happened.
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What Are Your Predictions for 2020 and Beyond?
by The Bethelite in2020 the society will continue to have financial problems with massive pay outs because of their lack of protecting their young people from a religion that harbors thousands of pedophiles.
thus this and other religions that has an 1800's mentality will continue to lose their young people.
with the religion's lies easily found on the internet the smart ones will continue to leave in droves.
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The WT cult wants to tighten their grip on the regular witnesses, like all despotic regimes - their literature will get kookier and kookier - and more and more worrisome for those of us on the outside looking in.
I think the WT leadership doesn't mind kookier literature, because they kinda know now that that the public isn't reading it. It's not for potential 'converts' - it's to keep the R&F under strict control.
The kookiness will get more and more strident and pronounced as the WT seeks to exert control over new areas of the R&F lives they used to allow some measure of autonomy over. Now, no more. Like with all greedy, power hungry bastards - some power is never enough.
The kookiness will continue to squeeze out individuals on a limited basis. My heart will swell when I hear about old friends who find themselves, for some reason or another, on the outside of the Tower (hopefully, for good!).
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venting: My wife is the most dangerous kind of JW
by goingthruthemotions ini need to vent again here.
because i have no one else to talk with and no one who really understands except for the people here.
my wife is the most dangerous kind of jw.
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thank god my kids want nothing to do with it..
This is something to be eminently grateful for.
Of course you know that your wife, like almost all JWs, cannot/will not be won over via a full frontal assault on the church/belief system.
As much as their bullshit deserves it, and as much as it might temporarily gratify you to bring it, it will not serve your goals. Please resist those impulses.
There are folks here who ultimately attained (to some extent) that which you seek - the extraction of devoutly immersed family members. When this has been accomplished, it has been after a long campaign of tolerant, but consistent, undermining of the JW paradigm. Maybe some of those folks here can talk to you more pointedly about their journey.
Only you can know your situation, and what is best for you.
I need to vent again here. Because i have no one else to talk with and no one who really understands except for the people here.
Yes!! Though there is sometimes no easy solutions to these entrenched problems, this message board offers a tremendous relief, in that we are people who thoroughly know the peculiarities of the difficulties the nasty CULT offers life.
Come back here often, just to vent; find some relief. Many of us here are working through similar difficulties w/ relatives. Keep your cool - and keep us posted on your situation.
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Syrian conflict
by Holden Caufield ini feel that assad even though he is bad is a better alternative then islamic extremist taking power.
what do you think?.
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You really gotta wonder about further efforts to destabilize countries in the Middle East - just to make room for ISIS (et al.)...
Now that we all know the typical and likely flow of events...why would it be good to have this Assad character gone, in favor of some other savage murderers?
Qui Bono?
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Make Shunning A Hate Crime
by Lost in the fog inthe humanist organisation in the uk wants to protect non-religious people who leave their church/religion from being punished for doing so.
they want the religious hate crime legislation in the uk to be extended to people who are not religious.
i hope they will succeed.
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It's cruel, it's unpleasant, but it should not be illegal. As a "victim" of shunning, I'd rather live in a world where shunning was allowed than live in a police state that could dictate who I had to talk to and associate with.
Not to mention, as I've progressed forward in life - OUT & AWAY from the JW religion...
It has occurred to me that, there certainly are instances in life where, I absolutely reserve and demand for myself the right to associate (and NOT associate), with whom I please.
If I must be a 'victim' of such - even for specious reasons - then that is the price that I must be willing to pay for their own right to my own free association.
I suspect that we all recognize the right of all people to make such choices for themselves. Probably, what is really most objectionable are the pervasive and insidious demands that the WTORG foists upon its parishioners. Namely, that they turn over their choice making in the use of such, to the organization's demands.
Please realize that this, too, is a person's rightful choice to make. A person has the absolute right to turn over the responsibility for making all of life's choices to a group of religious charlatans, who they have likely never even met, for unfalsifiable promises of everlasting life in the world to come.
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I got a Sympathy Card in the mail
by Butterfly607 ini haven’t been to a meeting in months.
just got a sympathy card in the mail from a “sister”.
i don’t know her beyond her face.
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I really liked this -
The thought was nice but that whole life is a chapter I have closed and will not allow it to be reopened no matter how well intentioned someone is. I didn’t respond at all because a Witness has nothing to offer by allowing them into my life.
Presume the best.
Prepare for the worst.
Do not respond.
If you're trying to put distance between yourself and a place, you don't keep turning around.
You don't need a dialogue with people who have an unspoken agenda concerning you.
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Besides Everlasting Life What Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Offer To Anyone?
by minimus ini have been thinking... why would anyone want to join the religion or actually stay in the organization.
i understand that people don’t want to lose their loving family and dear friends so some stay in.
but what does anyone really ever get because they are jehovah’s witnesses??.
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It also strikes me that what we have here is some kind of perverse symbiotic relationship between the jovie converts and the jovie faith. The jovie faith needs the converts just as much as the converts need the faith,
This also explains the great sense of loss that a jovie feels when they leave the jovie sewer.
Great insight, here. I am seeing a parallel to individual relationships that are abusive, but tolerated. The abused party's internal calculus concludes that it's somehow better to be abused, then to not be in the relationship at all. Thus, it continues on.
The WT, like an abusive partner, makes sure that there's a high price for leaving. It's been mentioned a million times - the WT can't be reformed. The DFing is an essential tool of control for the