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  Paranoia after today's Watchtower

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  boy oh boy did i feel paranoid at today's wt.

  not only are we to watch our associations outside of the congregation, but also watch our associations 'within' the congregation.

  this was emphasised by the wt study conductor.

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  hybridous

  Good comment by stuckinarut2

  The Tower has always wanted to destroy (if at all possible), or at least minimize to the fullest extent, the non-JW relationships of the average JW.
  
  The only thing that made it tenable was the association, the feeling to belonging within the walls of the Org.
  
  Now look as the Org seeks to kick out that one last crutch. You're a JW, you can't have close trusting relationships with worldly folks on the outside, and furthermore, you likely cannot have them with your fellow JWs.
  
  The Tower is basically begging for JWs to equivocate...I wonder why TPTB in there wouldn't have thought to steer clear of that, but then, I don't think there's much thinking going on there at all, these days.
  
  
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  What is the best debate you've ever read on this board...

  by The Rebel in

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  2. friends

  who won, and why?.

  the rebel..

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  hybridous

  Back in the day, I found the back-and-forth's with YOU KNOW quite notable.
  
  He was an independent mercenary for the WTs cause. And if he couldn't bring a winning argument for the Tower, then there was none to bring.
  
  
  
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  What would you do if the Society Declares Bankruptcy

  by Quarterback in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  special pioneers let go.

  bethel workers laid off.

  construction halts, what's next?

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  hybridous

  Yeah, this may be all wishful thinking...
  
  Maybe the best we get to experience is in knowing that they are on the decline, and that their Halcyon Days are long past; probably never to return....
  
  But if it all went down at once, I guess I'd make myself more available to the family I've been keeping at arms length...
  
  It would be hard to keep myself from having expectations concerning their reasoning/belief systems and associated behaviors. I'm just now coming to terms with the overwhelming likelihood that they are in FOR LIFE, no matter what happens or does not happen.
  
  Something catastrophic could happen to the tower, and it would mean the world to us here, and we'd hear of families reuniting, and greet new ex-JWs here and offer support. It would be a happy time for a lot of you, and I'd be glad for that. But for me and my peeps...I just don't see them ever giving up the dream. They are going down with the ship.
  
  You cannot reason people out of beliefs that they did not get reasoned into...
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  How was it when you were a JW as a kid?

  by nevaagain in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  whats worse than being an adult jw?

  when i was a kid i always had a bad concience all the time.

  i believed i would not survive armageddon for the fact that i didn't like going to service and i didnt like going to the meetings.

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  hybridous

  It freakin sucked. I could see all the lying and double standards, but wasn't allowed to point it out.

  I was told to 'make the truth my own', which I took to mean scrutinizing it to the point of eliminating doubts...so I tried, but it didn't hold up too well when I kicked the tires, ya know?
  
  As a side note, is that phrase still a part of modern JW jargon? I haven't heard it in quite a while. If it's been retired, maybe it was costing the Org more than it helped...

  Holidays are more-or-less ruined for me. I now have the freedom to 'celebrate' whatever I like, I just don't have the emotional connection that would make me want to. In a way, it's easier, since I don't have any pre-conceived notion of the 'right' or 'wrong' way to do Christmas or birthdays, or whatever.

  Although, the cognitive distortions imposed upon me as a kid sent me into therapy as an adult, which made things infinitely better for me and my kids....
  
  I can't recommend it enough, for those of us still carrying JW baggage.
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  Funny Names with Double Meaning

  by dig692 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just saw the episode of the simpsons where bart calls moe's tavern and asks for "amanda huggenkiss" and it made me laugh again .

  amanda huggenkiss.

  hugh jazz.

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  hybridous

  Howie Feltersnatch
  
  Connie Lingis
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  The JW religion has just cost me my marriage & my family life

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after leaving the organisation 10 years ago i fought with everything i had to stay in my marriage and with my three children.

  after a tumultuous number of years trying to maintain a happy family life while living in a divided home, it's finally over.

  the religion is single handedly responsible for destroying my marriage and my family.

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  hybridous

  So absolutely sorry to hear.
  
  Despite your best efforts, sometimes, these is no 'win' to be had. Let it stand as a testament to what we are up against.
  
  I wish you (and all of us caught in this) the best possible outcome. Time, and reason, are on our side....
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  If They Stopped Shunning Tomorrow?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  imagine that the cult decided to stop shunning family members on the proviso that the dfd person was not actively trying to attack the cult.. (please don't debate whether or not this is likely - it's hypothetical).

  how would you respond to your family?.

  personally i think i would be less than cooperative.

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  hybridous

  Lisa, that is some tremendously powerful perspective....thanks.
  
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  Rutherford's Satanic Lie

  by Icarus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  satan: "you certainly will not die!".

  rutherford: "millions now living will never die!

  "when satan told his lie, adam and eve both died despite his assurances.

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  hybridous

  Notice the sign said 'INVESTIGATE'...
  
  Do, indeed...
  
  Too bad it's no longer their admonition...
  
  
  
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  CAH closing down in upstate NY

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  yet another circuit assembly hall is going to be sold off!.

  they've been reducing the amount of congregations assigned to meet there and using the times when it isn't in use to make repairs.

  elders have now been informed that they are selling off the property and buildings and that circuits would be assigned to attend other sites, twice as far, three or four hours away, like montreal.

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  hybridous

  Yup, I remember helping out here when it was being built. I was just a kid.
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  CAH closing down in upstate NY

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  yet another circuit assembly hall is going to be sold off!.

  they've been reducing the amount of congregations assigned to meet there and using the times when it isn't in use to make repairs.

  elders have now been informed that they are selling off the property and buildings and that circuits would be assigned to attend other sites, twice as far, three or four hours away, like montreal.

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  hybridous

  Yeah, I'm interested in knowing exactly which one we're talking about...
  
  Potentially big impact on the family...