why would a creator write a book knowing in the future it would splinter into absolute madness?.
judeism?.
muslim?.
Lol! I'm sure thruout history people have wondered why God has not stepped in and all the leaders of these religions have always said he will come in his due time.
Whatever that supposed to mean. It makes me puke to think of joining any religious institution where you have any leaders there to explain the bible to you. Barf!
The bible is written like the writings of Nostradamas and can be interpreted to fit any belief system.
back in may 2007 i got this response from my brother who later acted as chief witness for the prosecution at our kangaroo court.
in fact he travelled 1000 miles round trip to do so.
he was motivated :-).
There's Scholar with the Gentile Time BS.
Once again the Wactower and there addiction to trying to predict the End of the world and when Jesus started reigning in Heaven.This is all a continuation of this crazed adventist Millerite movement.
George Storrs
To understand the significance of Storrs to our story, we need to quickly review the history of the Millerite movement and the origins of the Seventh-day Adventist church. As students of American church history know, Millerism, the parent of Adventism, was like Anglo-Israelism in that both grew out of a fascination with biblical prophecy. Because both arose at about the same time, it was inevitable that students of both movements would read the works of each other.
Millerites believed that Jesus would return sometime in the period of 1843-45. Believers should warn others and prepare themselves for the coming Judgment. The movement began with William Miller, a poor and reluctant Baptist preacher from rural New York state. Miller’s message was almost ignored by the public until Joshua Himes accepted it. Himes used his extensive advertising and publishing skills to spread the word.
Millerites first proclaimed the autumn of 1843, then the spring and later the autumn of 1844, as God’s appointed time. When their predictions failed, their humiliation became known as the Great Disappointment.
Millerism had penetrated Great Britain by 1840, the same year Our Israelitish Origin was published. There the Disappointment delayed a year because many British Millerites thought 1845, not 1844, was the expected year. In Britain, converts to Millerism usually came from smaller, prophetically-oriented churches on the fringes of British Christianity. These believers generally took a literalistic approach to Scripture. Often their prophetic views were bookish, lacking any social impact. By 1845, British Millerism had attracted offshoots of the Anglo-Israelite movement. 8
In America, Miller encouraged his followers to read British books on biblical prophecy. It seems there was some communication between American Millerites and various British prophecy buffs. Thus, Millerism helped set the stage for the introduction of Anglo-Israelism into the United States. That would explain how George Storrs, a former Millerite, came to recommend Our Israelitish Origins. It may also be one reason why the book sold so well in this country.
Before Anglo-Israelism reached America’s shores, the Great Disappointment had led to the collapse of Millerism and the discrediting of its leaders. Most Millerites returned to their former churches. Those who did not, because they continued preaching Jesus’ imminent second advent, became known as Adventists. At first, their numbers included only a handful of seventh-day Sabbatarians.
After the Great Disappointment, George Storrs continued working for the Adventist cause. Storrs’ most important contribution to Adventism came the day he started teaching that the dead were unconscious. Storrs believed the dead are not in heaven, nor are they in hell. They are asleep in their graves. People, he said, do not have immortal souls. They must be given eternal life through Jesus Christ at the resurrection of the saints.
Storrs discovered this doctrine while riding in a railroad car. He literally picked it up off the floor, where he had found a tract on the subject written by an independent Sunday-keeping preacher. Storrs popularized the teaching among Adventists. "Soul-sleep" thus became an identifying tenet of most Adventist sects.
Although many Adventists opposed sect-formation — on the grounds that churches immediately became Babylonian when formally organized — most Adventists came to see organization as better than no organization. Thus, groups began to coalesce around sets of doctrines that distinguished them from other groups. Their differences often revolved around the Sabbath, the nature of the millennium, the state of the dead, church government and the prophetess Ellen G. White. Her teachings led directly to the founding of the largest of these new groups, the Seventh-day Adventist church.
Coalescence among Adventists continued until the 1920s, a period of about 80 years. In this century the tendency has been to divide rather than to coalescence. Since the First World War, dozens of offshoots have sprung from these parent groups.
Storrs was a part of the coalescence. In 1863 he helped found the smallest of the Adventist bodies, the Sunday-observing Life and Advent Union. In 1964 the Life and Advent Union merged with the larger Advent Christian Church. Although the Life and Advent Union represented an extremely small branch of Adventism, Storrs' influence far exceeded its meager numbers. Every branch of Adventism, including the Seventh-day Adventists, the Church of God (Seventh Day), Jehovah's Witnesses and the Worldwide Church of God owe their doctrines of conditional immortality to him. 9
why would a creator write a book knowing in the future it would splinter into absolute madness?.
judeism?.
muslim?.
Why would a Creator write a book knowing in the future it would splinter into absolute madness?
Judeism?
Muslim?
Christianity?
Every religion who has used this book has used it for EVIL, they use it to control people and munipulate them.
They all use parts of this book.
The creator has the ability to see what will happen, then why would he add to the madess by writing a strange book full of parables and illustrations and so called history leaving it up to man to interpret!
If in advance you knew that this would happen would you do it?
I would not!
This all makes no sense!
I'm starting to think this is Satans biggest deception calling the bible the word of God!
If there is a God this all makes no sense.
bad day today...how the hey did everyone miss this??
?....or did i miss a post about it?.....i am not supposed to talk about anything jw with my hardcore jw wife...but while on the toilet takin care of biz..i was reading the lit she leaves in a basket...it was a wt..july 08, but dont know which one....once i showed it to her it disappeared...but damm the last page i think... it had a drawing of jesus and the text under it said this "jesus used the name jehovah in his prayers"....or close....and that is a fluckkin lie!...zero support for it!...so i said just freakin show me where he did...i think my pants were still down...i had already come to terms with the fact that jesus never once uttered the name jehovah ever...because what kid...esp in a serious discussion with his dad (like prayer) would ever call him by his first name???
?...she disagreed...how i dont know...but where is the evidence that jesus ever said the divine name in a prayer?!?!!??
Actualy, While reading the Watchtower you should always be taking a Sh$t.
Why let all that BS get built up!
complete the following:.
even if its not the truth...... .
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I still love playing follow the leader even though i'm an adult!
ok, what article in the proclaimers book makes you vomit the most?.
pg.
68 part of paragraph 2.. as a result, after the summer of 1917, a number of congregations of bible students were split into two groups, those loyal to the society and those who were easy prey to the smooth talk of the opposers!.
Thx Mary!
Ya, it's like a barf fest because we made strange mistakes but we've got new light to replace that old light so all is well!
They're like an Evil Shape Shifter.
literacy
ok, what article in the proclaimers book makes you vomit the most?.
pg.
68 part of paragraph 2.. as a result, after the summer of 1917, a number of congregations of bible students were split into two groups, those loyal to the society and those who were easy prey to the smooth talk of the opposers!.
Thx Sarah! Not sure but go to Watchtower documents the link is above and look at the actual book in pdf format. It's hard to read because it makes no sense and is full of BS!
Eventualy i will get around to it but right now i have to much on my plate.!
Thx
well it seems that $750 billion dollar bail out was a waste of time.
it seems like companies are filing bankruptcy as fast as the market can recoup.
the crime rate is about to go through the roof.
Hey fuzzy! What is this go to an Evangelical church BS, what to watch you guys speak in tongues and get fath healed or some other nonsense! Just because were all EX J'w's doesn't mean we need to run off to the next chuch to feel all warm and cozy and saved!
Conversation starts off with the Watchtower mindeset of were all gonna die were heading for the great depression! With absolutley no examples why were heading into a great depression just a statement with no facts.
Then there's you just like the watchtower telling everyone you must come to our church to be saved. BARF!
And to comfort us you tell us you were in the Watchtower for 45 years like that makes any difference!
Keep your faith healers to yourself and all that crap, They're no different then the crazy Watchtower! YUCK!
More fear mongering to polarize you and keep you scared of what's ahead.
Did that, not doing it anymore!
i know there are many here that were born into the religion and there are those who have family that were or are involved and that usually sparks an interest.. what about those who become interested by their campaining?
what influenced others here to become a jehovah's witness?.
what influenced you?.
I ran into them when i was 18 and i was into heavy metal at the time and anti establishment anti war and hated all churches and so on. I never went to church in my life before then and never opened a bible before studying with these people.There stance on those things got me interested and the idea of living on a paradise earth and not being controlled by a wordly government sounded wonderful! lol I was young and dumb and 1914 and all those other things i let go in one ear and out the other. I never ever understood that and did not pay attention. But i never was any good at there system and left twice. about 6 months after i was baptised i left,lol and i came back a couple of years later and got married and after about 2 years with the wife i dropped out in 2001 but still believing it was the truth until recently. If there is a God, I can't wait to see him come down here and destry this religion.
