did you ever come across jws that seemed in their own mindset they have built up and accumulated redemption points that they.
in turn felt they could and would invoke personal injury to others and not take responsibility for their actions.. i've come across a few that seemed to use and exploit their personal redeemer far and above the average only to get charged up again.
as their meeting and service requirements were met.. there is a psychological suggestion that says if people are constantly being told and pressed into them that a powerful and omnipresent god .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BghMgE2oXLU&feature=related
Do some of the Photos remind you of the photos in the Watchtower and awake? whether them demonizing certain groups like the UN or them showing paradise pictures of people playing with lions and sheep. The Nazis would be jealous of there propaganda machine! As long as you are a NAZI/Jehovah Witness all is well!
today at the meeting an elder said the following: "we don't want to focus on.
the life that we have now, we have to focus on the life that we will have in the.
new order.
Atleast you're thinking is on the right track. It's up to each individual to decide for themselves.We are judged as individuals and not because we are part of some group. The logic of the Watchtower is you must be part of the group or you will not survive armegeddon because they are Gods only channel and you must be there to get all the updates and proper Kool-Aid at the proper time. it's all nonsense. Everyone has there own consequences some huge some not so huge. If there is a creator what would that person do? What would Jesus do in that situation would he keep his mouth shut just to keep the peace. Hell NO, The guy spoke his mind and told the Pharisees off that's why they killed him because he was a threat to there power. If you leave expect this same treatment but Jesus knew in advance what they would do to him and he still did it. Hope one day you do make the jump and Get the Heck out of the Watchtower. I support no religion i have no agenda i hate them all. Thx
I've been reading more about mind control. Being wordly is anyone outside the group. It is group think logic. some more fanatical than the next but all thinking the same. Once you've gotten into a persons head you can control them and even conquer them. The mind controls the rest of the body once you have that they are all yours. Very sinister stuff indeed.
alphabetically...... jack barr sam herd geof jackson .
ted jaracz stephen lett gerrit losch.
tony morris guy pierce david splane.
These guys are terrorists and we should send them off to Guantanamo to have them all water boarded until they confesss that there full of shit. I'm not for torture but when it comes to these scumbags i'm all for it. I would get midevil and shit on there ass!
what do you think?
were you raised as a jw and feel you suffered no ill effects?
or do you feel it had a negative impact on your life?.
What can we truly know about the inner life of another person with any certainty? Not a lot I think.
But it certainly seems to me that many people live their whole lives happy as Jehovah's Witnesses. They have careers, friends, family, a place in the congregation, a sense of purpose, and an ideology that makes sense of the world around them. Sure some leave because being a Witness makes them miserable too. But we should be cautious about assuming our own thoughts and feelings about any given situation to be universal.
And incidentally, although many are happy to get free from the religion, some apostates are by all appearances miserable once they have left. So it works both ways.
Sounds like Watchtower thinking to me! They need to install a revolving door in this religion because the turnover rate is so high. If the Watchtower was a company to work for it would be rated a horrible place to work because if people were happy in it they would stay but there not so they leave. The many you speak of are the ones who are so braindead and overlook everything and are walking zombies. I met plenty guess what by the time there old there so screwed up in the head there not even human. Some leave,lol they are running out of there faster than they can recruit them. Nice apology reading for the Witnesses and how wonderful it is to be there and is no different than any upbringing. Ya right i was raised in the world and the Witneses are a strange bunch indeed. They are barely human there so brainwashed.Any normal person would see it but you must have been raised that explains your comment because you still think like a Witness!
ok, so here's a little summary.
i have suffered from depression for quite a while, at varying degrees.
several months ago, i made the decision to stop attending meetings (check out my first posts for the reasons).
Absolutley, along with the association of everything negative. The people, the constant reminder armegeddon is near and we may be destroyed i mean get real this is all negative and your mind can only take so much evil negative nonsense. Run far away from these people and get far away from there trained way of thinking. It's poison for the brain.
if you read any book on the planet as long as you have some kind of education you can read it and clearly understand it and not argue this means this and that means that.
18 now i say to you that you are peter (which means rock),[a] and upon this rock i will build my church, and all the powers of hell[b] will not conquer it.
18"i also say to you that you are (a)peter, and upon this rock i will build my church; and the gates of (b)hades will not overpower it.
Veen that was halarious, reads exactly like the bible. That's how i'm starting to look at religion as some crazed ancient nonsense with beliefs clearly based on bullshit.
if you read any book on the planet as long as you have some kind of education you can read it and clearly understand it and not argue this means this and that means that.
18 now i say to you that you are peter (which means rock),[a] and upon this rock i will build my church, and all the powers of hell[b] will not conquer it.
18"i also say to you that you are (a)peter, and upon this rock i will build my church; and the gates of (b)hades will not overpower it.
Ive been out for 8 years. I can totally understand running off to atheism because not one religion on the planet teaches the truth. They all have some kind of nonsense they teach. The Watchtower makes you paranoid of religion i know i am. You know the old saying fool me once fuck you, fool me twice fuck me.
if you read any book on the planet as long as you have some kind of education you can read it and clearly understand it and not argue this means this and that means that.
18 now i say to you that you are peter (which means rock),[a] and upon this rock i will build my church, and all the powers of hell[b] will not conquer it.
18"i also say to you that you are (a)peter, and upon this rock i will build my church; and the gates of (b)hades will not overpower it.
In the end, we all believe what we choose to believe, what we like to believe, what suits our prejudices and fuels our passions
"This only applies to the intellectually dishonest. I may not want to believe that I have the smallest bank account in America, but the numbers dictate what I believe--not my prejudices or passions" Amen John Doe!
if you read any book on the planet as long as you have some kind of education you can read it and clearly understand it and not argue this means this and that means that.
18 now i say to you that you are peter (which means rock),[a] and upon this rock i will build my church, and all the powers of hell[b] will not conquer it.
18"i also say to you that you are (a)peter, and upon this rock i will build my church; and the gates of (b)hades will not overpower it.
don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining, OK? lol
Ya i can't help it. It's something that i will never understand is running off to Christianity after leaving the Watchtower. I've learned you never get anywhere argueing over the net. You're gonna believe what you want just like talking to a Jehovah Witness. You are staunch in your beliefs however wishy washy they may be to somone like myself. But i have no beliefs so i have my own problems to contend with just trying to understand yours. thx
