Posts by cameo-d

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Ecclesiastes 10:20 equates to Sattelites?

by Tired of the Hypocrisy in

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hi all, i get a weekly newsletter from jack and rexella van impe.

http://www.jvim.com/newsletter in the last one i got the folllowing idea on how the a bird is being compared to a satellite.

it makes sense to me.

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The new Reverend Scott is his WIDOW!!!

Her name is Melissa. She was also a porn star. Her stage name was "Barbie Bridges".

After Dr. Scott's death, a lot of info on her past came out and I think her ex (before dr. scott) started putting out a lot of info to try to blackmail her for money. All of this was on the net a few years ago, but I think Ms. Scott's lawyers were finally able to get a lot of stuff removed from public view.

Too bad, because I think she was really sincere in learning and teaching. She is beautiful, talented, and exceptionally bright. Her methods of teaching were very different and I enjoyed learning how some of the words translated from Greek, Syriac, Coptic.

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question for experts

by cameo-d in

genesis 4:7. when god says to cain "sin is crouching at your door".. how did cain know what a door is?

i thought they lived in caves or lean-to's.. have archeologists found bc hinges?.

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cameo-d

Narki, that's a really good logical detailed answer. I was trying to track down one of your 25 dollar words and find the translation and ran into this.(below) Is this what you call new light? I get entirely different meanings from these two verses now. Oh, its from wiki "septuagint".

Genesis 4:7, LXX (NETS)	Genesis 4:7, Masoretic (NRSV)
If you offer correctly but do not divide correctly, have you not sinned? Be still; his recourse is to you, and you will rule over him.	If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin is lurking at the door; its desire is for you, but you must master it.

This instance illustrates the complexity of assessing differences between the LXX and the Masoretic Text. Despite the striking divergence of meaning here between the two, nearly identical consonantal Hebrew source texts can be reconstructed.

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question for experts

by cameo-d in

genesis 4:7. when god says to cain "sin is crouching at your door".. how did cain know what a door is?

i thought they lived in caves or lean-to's.. have archeologists found bc hinges?.

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cameo-d

Almost athiest...

Your reply just brings up more questions.

If Cain was supposed to be "cursed to be a wanderer"doesn't it seem contrary that he would be the first person to develop a settlement?

It seems he was really nested in and stationary for someone doomed to be a vagabond.

How do any of you make sense of this "curse" that sounds more like a reward? The "protective mark" sounds like a reward, too. What happened to a god of justice? How does the punishment fit the crime?

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how jehovah got his name

by cameo-d in

yahweh didn't get a name till moses come up with the "i am" thing.. not sure how it made it from i am to yahweh.

and even crazier from yahwh to jehovah.. but anyway, my question is this: since god didn't have a name until "exodus" and if bible translaters say they are being accurate.... how come the name became retro-active and genesis gives god the name jehovah before he really has a name?.

how can these translaters call this accurate?.

cameo-d

Yahweh didn't get a name till Moses come up with the "I am" thing.

Not sure how it made it from I AM to Yahweh. And even crazier from Yahwh to Jehovah.

But anyway, my question is this: Since god didn't have a name until "Exodus" and if Bible translaters say they are being accurate...

how come the name became retro-active and Genesis gives god the name Jehovah before he really has a name?

How can these translaters call this accurate?

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question for experts

by cameo-d in

genesis 4:7. when god says to cain "sin is crouching at your door".. how did cain know what a door is?

i thought they lived in caves or lean-to's.. have archeologists found bc hinges?.

.

cameo-d

Genesis 4:7

when god says to Cain "sin is crouching at your door".

How did Cain know what a door is? I thought they lived in caves or lean-to's.

Have archeologists found BC hinges?

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bizarre artwork in watchtower

by cameo-d in

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hello people.. i found a couple of these magazines in a lobby and was flipping through.

i thought it was a current issue, but i just now realize it is from july1, 2007.. i am not intesested in anybody coming to my house to give me bible lessons, so i will tell you that upfront.

it is the weirdest thing i have ever seen in a sunday school book and it makes no sense to me.

cameo-d

Thank you all for your generousity of time and effort in answering my question.

Gently ferrel, I found this picture when I clicked your links:

The art in the watchtower magazine looks very similar to the shape in the lower right corner. Except that the object as depicted in WT is two bands...one horizontal within a band vertical. It's the damn eyeballs on it that look so nightmarish.

I guess the Lincoln Memorial was supposed to be "god on the throne". Ha!

I really like that you all dig for good solid answers. I hope it will be all right if I stop in occassionally to ask questions.

Maybe I will be able to contribute some info that will be of interest to some of you, too.

Again, thank you all for these resourceful answers.

I feel another question coming on before I go....

If "god" said let us make man in our image, then that would mean creation was a joint undertaking.....so why does this one "god" person get all the credit?

Now I know a lot of people say the Creators were "god" and "jesus".....but really, to me that's goofy.

I tend to think our creators were perhaps a team of scientsts from another civilization. I think it was more than a joint effort. I think Creation was a team effort.

So I guess my question is...why does a single entity get all the credit?

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Places that won't exist in the "Paradise Earth"

by Zico in

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machu picchu, peru.

itsukushima shrine, japan.

taj mahal, india .

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bizarre artwork in watchtower

by cameo-d in

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hello people.. i found a couple of these magazines in a lobby and was flipping through.

i thought it was a current issue, but i just now realize it is from july1, 2007.. i am not intesested in anybody coming to my house to give me bible lessons, so i will tell you that upfront.

it is the weirdest thing i have ever seen in a sunday school book and it makes no sense to me.

cameo-d

Can we talk about the artwork some more?

I was just thinking, from the scripture quoted about about the "eyes all around the rims". it seems like "eyes" could be windows on a space ship. Doesn't that seem more reasonable than making a picture with actual human eyeballs on a wheel? The eyeballs make the whole thing look eerie and spooky.

This artwork just looks totally off the wall. All the other photos or drwaings look realistic. This one just doen't even seem to fit with the book.

Is it a mind game or just whacky art? For what reason?

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bizarre artwork in watchtower

by cameo-d in

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hello people.. i found a couple of these magazines in a lobby and was flipping through.

i thought it was a current issue, but i just now realize it is from july1, 2007.. i am not intesested in anybody coming to my house to give me bible lessons, so i will tell you that upfront.

it is the weirdest thing i have ever seen in a sunday school book and it makes no sense to me.

cameo-d

I have to say I am really impressed open mind. To get the answer so fast...like 15 minutes. You guys must really know your scriptures!

I had no idea that picture would be from a scripture. I just looked it up in my bible now and it does say pretty much the same as you quoted. Now even the bible sounds pretty wack-o. I have heard about book chariots of the gods and theories that they (the gods) were aliens. Do the Jehovahs believe that? Is that the reason for the artwork?

Are the phallic things supposed to be the spirits or the gods?

Thanks for answering.

I have to tell you, I talked with some Jahovahs one time and when I asked some questions they were like well, you have to study this book first and we can talk about the deeper things later. It was like they were secretive about giving you answers to questions until you do it the way they want it first. That's why I come here to ask. Thank you.

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bizarre artwork in watchtower

by cameo-d in

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friends

hello people.. i found a couple of these magazines in a lobby and was flipping through.

i thought it was a current issue, but i just now realize it is from july1, 2007.. i am not intesested in anybody coming to my house to give me bible lessons, so i will tell you that upfront.

it is the weirdest thing i have ever seen in a sunday school book and it makes no sense to me.

cameo-d

Hello people.

I found a couple of these magazines in a lobby and was flipping through.

I thought it was a current issue, but I just now realize it is from July1, 2007.

I am not intesested in anybody coming to my house to give me bible lessons, so I will tell you that upfront. All I want to know is about the picture on page12. It is the weirdest thing I have ever seen in a sunday school book and it makes no sense to me. If anybody has this book from last year, could you tell me what this picture is about?

It is four seperate rings within rings and the ring band has little eyes all over it. Then it has the phallic figures , four of them also. They look kind of like the phallic looking yellow thing that comes up as a "flower" on the elephant ear. I don't know how else to explain it. Then, just about midway there is a very small face...it's hard to see, but if the picture would be enlarged it might be easier. Then there is like bands of electricity or lightening coming out of these phallic things. The light streaks seem to turn into waves on an ocean and then there are 8 balls of light. High above this it looks like the statue of Abraham Lincoln memorial statue.

Is this picture something that only this religion would understand? I would like to know what it means please.

Thank you.