Posts by cameo-d

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Does WikiLeaks have any Scoop on the WTBTS to be released?

by cameo-d in

since wl deals with documented facts, not merely rumors and speculations.....what would you most like to see documented and revealed about the watchtower, the gb members, or the wt true agenda?.

if you could ask wl to dig up information about any curiosity you have concerning this cult....what would you have them investigate?.

do you think there is any information that will be released concerning religions and cults?.

cameo-d

I would argue that when it comes to the Society, we ARE WikiLeaks. Plenty of documentation on this site alone that gives the 'scoop' on the Society.

-sd-7

Yes, I think so. One of the best leaks of all time, aside from the UN scandal, was this one from God_Delusion about where he explains how the "Dry cleaning" business works:

Let me explain a little about what I do each day.....

I work for a company that arranges Trusts in the Cook Islands, Turks & Caicos, Panama, etc. I know that Blondie is against what I am about to say, but I do not just believe that the WTS have a variety of Trusts in various jurisdictions around the world......I am absolutely positive they do.

I personally look after 14 Trusts. 3 of these Trusts are under the umbrella of non-profit organisations, like the WTS. One of the clients in my portfolio is larger than the WTS.

The Trusts we setup are administered by us and the beneficiaries (the real owners) remain anonymous, to the point where I do not even know the identities of the real owners; that information is a little above my pay grade.

Does WikiLeaks have any Scoop on the WTBTS to be released?

by cameo-d in

since wl deals with documented facts, not merely rumors and speculations.....what would you most like to see documented and revealed about the watchtower, the gb members, or the wt true agenda?.

if you could ask wl to dig up information about any curiosity you have concerning this cult....what would you have them investigate?.

do you think there is any information that will be released concerning religions and cults?.

cameo-d

I found some WL info on Scientology. Seems they have to sign contracts now swearing that they have no Scientology dissidents among their family, also that they are not joining to find out "secrets" to expose to media.

Looks like the cults are getting paranoid now!

Also, in the contract they tell them how many days they can have off and that they will not be paid for anything, that they are "volunteering". Sounds a lot like what WT does to it's R&F except you don't have to sign a contract for the "privilege" of selling mags.

Not sure when the info came out...maybe last summer.

Here's the link:

http://mirror.wikileaks.info/wiki/Scientology_Class_V_Org_Application,_Declaration_and_Contract,_2009/

What's really hilarious is their "Billion year contract" where members pledge loyalty and sign up with them for "this life and the next ones". They sign away their afterlife. How can you give something you don't even have or have no guarantee of? And how do they get people to believe this sihte? Membership must be deranged or mentally incapable. IDK.

Scientology, like JWs, also depends on placement of literature. But I think they use paperback books. Anyway, here are some happy Scientologists discussing the revelation of Scientology statistics per WikiLeaks.

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/123-leaks-legal/statistics-west-us-44618/11/

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OK Blood card

by Bonnie_Clyde in

i had a doctor's appointment last week, and we talked about the blood issue.

i informed her that i was no longer a jehovah's witness and that i would accept blood if it meant my life.

she reminded me that she will make a note of it, but that i should inform the local hospitals--in the event that i had to be hospitalized and was in a coma and couldn't speak for myself.

cameo-d

The only reason you would need to do that would be in case "the brothers" or your family members come around and say "No blood" if you are in hosp. and cannot speak for yourself. Otherwise, I think it's pretty much standard that you will get blood if you need it---regardless.

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Did Paul write Luke?

by iamwhoiam in

luke 1:1-4 (nwt).

1whereas many have undertaken to compile a statement of the facts that are given full credence among us,2just as those who from [the] beginning became eyewitnesses and attendants of the message delivered these to us,3i resolved also, because i have traced all things from the start with accuracy, to write them in logical order to you, most excellent theoph ilus,4that you may know fully the certainty of the things that you have been taught orally.. act 1:1,2 (nwt).

1the first account, o theoph ilus, i composed about all the things jesus started both to do and to teach,2until the day that he was taken up, after he had given commandment through holy spirit to the apostles whom he chose.. just curious.

cameo-d

The disciples did not accept Paul and had nothing to do with him.

Paul is supposed to have written about half of the New Testament. He was also a member of King Herod's family. I think he interjected a lot of stuff in there that Jesus would never have approved--like continuing the animal sacrifices and other quirks.

Any bible edits or translations have to be approved by the Holy C so who knows really who wrote what or who changed the wording?

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JW Whips 12 year old daughter to death !! This is very graphic be warned!!

by Hairyhegoat in

this is a old case but just shows what goes on behind closed doors if you are a jw family.

this arsehole needs to go to the chair!!.

more news:.

cameo-d

Now maybe you can understand why certain agencies are implementing stronger controls even though everyone is groaning about losing their rights. Things like this have happened out of sight. Some people should not be parents.

Once in a while someone gets caught on camera for beating a child in the parking lot.

Cameras in every home?

Maybe that's what it will have to come to because of people like this who are psychopathic barbarians.

Either that or just let the human race go extinct.

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YouTube - Elder lies about shunning and custody packet

by Soldier77 in

this is unbelievable!

theocratic warfare with the courts?.

elder states that jw's do not shun: (listen to his weak definition of shunning).

cameo-d

Just remember that a lot of the DoJ people are graduates of Pat Robertson's "university". Where does that leave you?

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Nostradamus prediction of 2012 and the timing of the society leaving New York City

by dysfunction in

jw
friends

i have been doing research on nostradamus prediction and some of his predictions talks about 2012 and planet x and possible flooding of new york city and ect.. which goes along with rev about the water turning bitter, and great famine because of the polar shifts.

does anyone know anything about this and the possible connection as is why they might be selling their real estate and trying to leave new york city?

any thoughts ... feel free to venture off topic..or outside the box..

cameo-d

They are setting up their paradise compounds. They have acquired large tracts of land in various countries in conjunction with their pledges to the ARC, WWF and the IMF.

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YouTube - Elder lies about shunning and custody packet

by Soldier77 in

this is unbelievable!

theocratic warfare with the courts?.

elder states that jw's do not shun: (listen to his weak definition of shunning).

cameo-d

Alamb: Ya I had a good judge but he crumbled and didn't fight the religious thing.

I like the way the court order was written up...the one you quoted on page 1. I thought it was well put.

Alamb: My ex is in contempt of the whole order. The judge quit the case.

I take back what I said. Seems the judge didn't have much starch in his convictions. A quitter, huh? Guess they can pick and choose what's convenient. Just like lawyers don't want to take cases they are doubtful they can win. Or will cost more than what their client can pay. Judge quits. Pfft. How convenient. No courage.

Alamb: We are sent to a mediator who says he has no power to enforce the order. Dead end.

So what good is any of these morons? They just keep a seat warm and get a gov. paycheck.

Alamb: So I'm not a big fan of the justice system.

The judicial system answers to the Crown Temple. And the pope actually has the authority to overrule any law.

Alamb: I have since taken the course to become a CASA and got sworn in in October. This shouldn't happen.

That's idealistic and noble, but you will still probably find your hands are tied when it comes right down to it.

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YouTube - Elder lies about shunning and custody packet

by Soldier77 in

this is unbelievable!

theocratic warfare with the courts?.

elder states that jw's do not shun: (listen to his weak definition of shunning).

cameo-d

alamb,

You had one heck of a good judge and defense team!

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Does WikiLeaks have any Scoop on the WTBTS to be released?

by cameo-d in

since wl deals with documented facts, not merely rumors and speculations.....what would you most like to see documented and revealed about the watchtower, the gb members, or the wt true agenda?.

if you could ask wl to dig up information about any curiosity you have concerning this cult....what would you have them investigate?.

do you think there is any information that will be released concerning religions and cults?.

cameo-d

Gerard: "The Watchtower is hardly a relevant topic of conversation between consulates."

Well, the political area affects more people and that is the wider audience right now. There are hundreds of thousands of cables yet to be revealed. WikiLeaks has been sympathetic to the victims of this cult sham in the past, so I have no doubt if there are some moles in Bethel and beyond, that we will eventually see some solid documentation of the dirt and evil behind some of these misleading religious organizations.

So far there has been documentation of misdeeds of politico's and corporations. But there are "3 frogs croaking"----so religion has to be in the mix. But probably considered less important than politics and corporations because those entities affect more people. Once the masses get their eyes opened about some of those deceits, they will be more receptive when it comes to the verification of the dirty deeds of psychopathic religious leaders and absurd doctrine.