just shower the people you love with love .
shower the people you love with love .
better to shower the people you love with love .
oh yeah Lady Z, that's a great song.....and your right so beautiful to listen to much more than the KS stuff!
heard it just the other day on the oldies station actually....first time in many years....i too was struck by the lovely/loving thoughts. Wish all churches/groups would sing this.....any really mean it.
pretty much living my entire adult life in jw land i had such a one sided biased against the world including gays...in my own family there were a number of gay members that i thought i was so above them and better than them because the bible said so...i had a cousin die of aids in the early 80's and felt no remorse at all...since my departure 4 years ago i have redirected my priorities in life to include those of not my way of life...i currently have a gay cousin about my age and see the world in a whole new light...i no longer feel superior to anyone and accept those for who they are...this has been a long and hard road back to simplicity i'm just sorry it took so long...
Homosexuals are human also...
Apart from the Alien ones !
yeah but them alien studs are so HOT! with their zero gravity beds....and when they kick it into warp drive........WOOF!
lol
i remember it as the "great disapointment.......it was a date broadcasted during the "service and school" and was to be a moment families should be together when the "instructions were provided"!...........
realize everyone........ reading.....this was 1 year and 56 days after the january 1st 1989 wt was in circulation.
this had to be the "begining of doom!
I remember a brother twinkling his EYE at me as though
delete stupid pedophile comment
oh yeah I remember assemblies and 'special announcements'.....that never turned out to be anything special.....such fucking manipulation
MWUHAHA........gotta love it
as i think i recall, this happened in the fall of 1972. i was living in atlanta at the time, where it was a nonissue, there was a very pretty black girl who was very popular in the congo there.
but back in my much smaller hometown, there were still black congregations when i started studying in 1970....totally separate khs, totally separate circuit assemblies.
not sure if they had a separate co...probably not.. in fact my great uncle, the eccentric old guy nobody in my family had much to do with....been a jw for ages but not very popular in the kh either....had a little house directly across the street.....moody, cranky old cuss, but very independent thinker too in a weird kind of russelite way....he got df'd around that time and i think it had something to do with the integration issue.
Great material from the 52 wt blondie, thanks for posting.
Can we not see that all classes of the human race are evil, that if we start reforming we shall be lost in an impossible task, with endless discriminations and many varieties or injustices to beat down, which crusading social and political organizations of this world have hopelessly fought for years?
boy, just listen to this shit....impossible task....hopeless. like they really cared. though i have to say after the congos were integrated i was never aware of any issues where I was....maybe some of the older pubs werent exactly thrilled but....wasnt long before we had a black TMS servant.
just to review, i had my meeting today with the two elders who say a sister has accused me of "grinding" with her and thus porneia.
so i printed out several of your comments on how to defend myself.
i felt good about standing my ground, and repeating that i had not "grinded" with this ex-friend and that she wants to ruin the relationship i have now with the sister i am dating.. however, the two elders today really tried to pressure me.
Alternatively, you could meet with them, confess, and add the names of a few of the elders wives.
OMFG!!! what a great idea, can you picture the looks on the JC faces?? oh and then the gossip in the congo....all those bitches squawking and shooting dirty looks at one another during the public talk....the shit would really hit the fan.....you go, finally-free!
pretty much living my entire adult life in jw land i had such a one sided biased against the world including gays...in my own family there were a number of gay members that i thought i was so above them and better than them because the bible said so...i had a cousin die of aids in the early 80's and felt no remorse at all...since my departure 4 years ago i have redirected my priorities in life to include those of not my way of life...i currently have a gay cousin about my age and see the world in a whole new light...i no longer feel superior to anyone and accept those for who they are...this has been a long and hard road back to simplicity i'm just sorry it took so long...
I no longer feel superior to anyone and accept those for who they are...this has been a long and hard road back to simplicity I'm just sorry it took so long...
Glad you made it, zero......I know it took me years to really throw off the superior attitudes about other groups of people, even long after I left the borg......thanks for being so honest and sharing with us.
hassan's book is helping me so much in letting go and not being affraid of being found out by the jw's here in "greenland.
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what amazing information about how the jw's compare to other high control groups and cults.. he hasn't even mentioned the jw's, so far.. it is helping me so much in gaining my confidence and not worrying about what jw's preach about the end of the world, and such.. i love this book!.
Aw, way to go, friggin LOVE the picture of the GB at work, gary! it had actually crossed my mind to find and post something like that on this board....you beat me to the punch man.
Only thing is....with the camera angle and all....i can't tell if the FDS is receiving angelic instructions....or transmitting them to the Writing Dept. what do you think bud?
just to review, i had my meeting today with the two elders who say a sister has accused me of "grinding" with her and thus porneia.
so i printed out several of your comments on how to defend myself.
i felt good about standing my ground, and repeating that i had not "grinded" with this ex-friend and that she wants to ruin the relationship i have now with the sister i am dating.. however, the two elders today really tried to pressure me.
That is the most sage thing I've ever read on this site... Tex, you are a god damned genius!
Right on dawg.....life is so short. Better get it while you can....or be a sad old man.
as i think i recall, this happened in the fall of 1972. i was living in atlanta at the time, where it was a nonissue, there was a very pretty black girl who was very popular in the congo there.
but back in my much smaller hometown, there were still black congregations when i started studying in 1970....totally separate khs, totally separate circuit assemblies.
not sure if they had a separate co...probably not.. in fact my great uncle, the eccentric old guy nobody in my family had much to do with....been a jw for ages but not very popular in the kh either....had a little house directly across the street.....moody, cranky old cuss, but very independent thinker too in a weird kind of russelite way....he got df'd around that time and i think it had something to do with the integration issue.
As I think I recall, this happened in the fall of 1972. I was living in Atlanta at the time, where it was a nonissue, there was a very pretty black girl who was very popular in the congo there. But back in my much smaller hometown, there were still black congregations when I started studying in 1970....totally separate KHs, totally separate circuit assemblies. Not sure if they had a separate CO...probably not.
In fact my great uncle, the eccentric old guy nobody in my family had much to do with....been a JW for ages but not very popular in the KH either....had a little house directly across the street.....moody, cranky old cuss, but very independent thinker too in a weird kind of Russelite way....he got Df'd around that time and I think it had something to do with the integration issue. I remember stopping to visit with him once and him castigating the "yankees" and their newfangled ideas about things....he might actually have said "damnyankees" lol.....meaning the CO and the Brooklyn big boys etc......course he also wrote books of poems and self published them.....really baaaad poetry that went on for days....all about god's coming kingdom and how you should only eat "natural" foods, etc etc etc. Lot of non-WT-approved ideas there. Poor old fellow, I felt sorry for him, all shriveled up and bent over with arthritis....age 80 something.....but he had such a hard nosed personality, not a lovable old cuss at all, just an ol cuss....sad.
Anyway, back on topic.....wondered if any others remember the integration period and if your congo experienced any problems/tensions over it. oh yeah just remembered, the justification for not being integrated up to that point was "it might stumble someone"....i.e., local white people who would be upset having to sit in a KH with black people. Yeah that was still the way it was in the South of my childhood all thru the sixties....believe it or not.....ugh. And dubs in the South didnt question it at all.
From JWs, Blacks and Discrimination at http://www.seanet.com/~raines/discrimination.html --
Changes came about only because of outside "worldly" social and legal forces:
The appeal and the need to belong, are so great it makes it impossible for black Witnesses to question the monolithically white nature of their leadership; it allows them to defend the fact that Jehovah's Witnesses were among the last of all religious groups to be integrated in the South. They waited until integration became law; they did not question the segregation laws that had kept them apart until then, nor did they protest them in the name of God. When nuns and priests and ministers and students marched to protest against what the Watchtower Society believed was Caesar's business, the Society called them "crazed mobs." (Harrison, 1978:261)
