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  How do believers defend a god who is going to murder billions and pin it on them?

  by tootired2care in

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  at that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.

  they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.

  - jerimiah 25:33.

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  MadGiant

  Thanks ma'am.

  Take care, Ismael
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  How do believers defend a god who is going to murder billions and pin it on them?

  by tootired2care in

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  at that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.

  they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.

  - jerimiah 25:33.

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  MadGiant

  "Lots of scholars have concluded the story to be a fable, if not most. What other plausible explanation is there? What do you think was going through the minds of the original writers of Genesis?"

  Sooooo, no Genesis no original sin, no original sin no need for a an omnipotent spirit being from another dimension to give birth to himself so he could later torture himself to death as a sacrifice to himself to appease himself for something he started in the first place... Ismael
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  How do believers defend a god who is going to murder billions and pin it on them?

  by tootired2care in

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  2. beliefs

  at that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.

  they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.

  - jerimiah 25:33.

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  MadGiant

  Wow!! I fell like I am trolling.

  "Fable is a synonym of allegory. There are specific reasons WHY the serpent is a serpent and not another animal. You seem to gloss over this major factor." Would you please post the sources you have that lead you to this conclusion? Are those sources you opinion? Do you have any other sources to support your claims? Ismael
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  How do believers defend a god who is going to murder billions and pin it on them?

  by tootired2care in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.

  they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.

  - jerimiah 25:33.

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  MadGiant

  "MadGiant,

  TEC doesn't feel that 2 Tim 3:16 applies to her, since she marched into his office and demanded Jesus have a personal relationship with her, and he said she's exempted from following the Bible now since she goes straight to the source to get the pure unadulterated Word of Jesus.

  Adam"

  copy that, thanks.

  Take care,

  Ismael
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  How do believers defend a god who is going to murder billions and pin it on them?

  by tootired2care in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.

  they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.

  - jerimiah 25:33.

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  MadGiant

  "I used the physics book example because scripture works in the same way. When you are done learning from a physics textbook and are left with nothing of use, it was not a physics textbook. That's not in the "eye of the beholder" it's the scientific method. Billions of people all around the world stand by the usefulness of their ancient texts for the training of righteousness. Scripture is distinguished from non scripture by it's usefullness especially across generations."

  Really!!!! Are you trying to ad the scientific method into mythology discussion. Are you trying to apply legend to the physical world? This is the basic model for the Scientific Method. Try to apply #3 and #4 to the book and your deity. Let me know how it goes. 1. Observation and description of a phenomenon or group of phenomena. 2. Formulation of an hypothesis to explain the phenomena. In physics, the hypothesis often takes the form of a causal mechanism or a mathematical relation. 3. Use of the hypothesis to predict the existence of other phenomena, or to predict quantitatively the results of new observations. 4. Performance of experimental tests of the predictions by several independent experimenters and properly performed experiments. Ismael
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  How do believers defend a god who is going to murder billions and pin it on them?

  by tootired2care in

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  at that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.

  they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.

  - jerimiah 25:33.

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  "In 2 Tim 3:16 Paul was giving us the specifications for true scripture. If a certain grouping of texts prove NOT to be useful in "teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousnes" then they're not "God-breathed." God is the source of competency, therefore His works will be fully competent." Why are there clouds in the sky? Nahum 1:3 Why are some people blind, deaf, dumb or handicapped in some other way? Exodus 4:11, Luke 1:20 What causes thunder and lightning? Job 37:2-3 Why do we sometimes see rainbows? Genesis 9:13-15 What causes tornadoes to form? Jeremiah 30:23, Isaiah 40:24 Why are some women unable to have children? Genesis 20:3, 18. Samuel 1:2, 5 What causes earthquakes? Isaiah 13:13, Psalms 18:7 Why are some men afflicted with hemorrhoids? Deuteronomy 28:27, 1 Samuel 5:6 So, you are telling me that 200, 300 years ago, all this verses answered this questions and where inspired. Today they are not. What going to happens when men keeps finding answers, more verses will turn to be "not inspired"? How do I know one from the other? All that's make sense today is inspired, all that doesn't make sense today is not inspired? The day after tomorrow we will see what happens? Ismael
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  How do believers defend a god who is going to murder billions and pin it on them?

  by tootired2care in

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  2. beliefs

  at that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.

  they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.

  - jerimiah 25:33.

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  MadGiant

  "No, i am not. God said to listen to His Son. Christ said, 'you search the scriptures because you think that by them you have eternal life, but these are the scriptures that point to ME, and you refuse to come to ME to have life"

  When you wrote "ME", are you referring to "yeshua"? If so, when I read something ridiculous in the book, like when Jesus foretell what would happen to the stars in space, “And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind” (Revelation 6:13). Or some verses like Mark 5 1-20, Luke 4:31-37, Acts 16, that today are clearly cases of mental illness. These verses are not inspired. But verses like this are inspired?: Psalm 34:17-20 ESV When the righteous cry for help, the Lord hears and delivers them out of all their troubles. The Lord is near to the brokenhearted and saves the crushed in spirit. Many are the afflictions of the righteous, but the Lord delivers him out of them all. He keeps all his bones; not one of them is broken. Matthew 4:24 ESV So his fame spread throughout all Syria, and they brought him all the sick, those afflicted with various diseases and pains, those oppressed by demons, epileptics, and paralytics, and he healed them. How do I pick one from the other? Do you have a personal inside that non of us have? "Scripture is, as Paul said, "God-breathed". Inspired. (in the spirit, from the spirit) Like the book of Revelation. But Paul could not have been referring to the whole bible, as the whole bible did not exist at that time. Nor is it all scripture, given by God, in the spirit (like Revelation). Some is simply a recording of things that happened; history and such. Like the book of Luke." Now you are just making things up as we go along. If something I have learn from this place is that you have to back up your words with the bible. Where are the scriptures to back up your last statement? Ismael
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  How do believers defend a god who is going to murder billions and pin it on them?

  by tootired2care in

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  at that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.

  they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.

  - jerimiah 25:33.

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  MadGiant

  "With all due respect also, who says you have to believe in the whole bible or none of it? (though I agree that you don't get to throw out the parts that make one feel uncomfortable; unless they make you feel uncomfortable because they contradict Christ, who is the Truth... not the bible) The bible is not one book: it is many books, and not all scripture (inspired). God also did not say, listen to the bible... or listen to the scriptures... or listen to the law. He says (in front of Peter and John, and also Moses and Elijah)... This is my Son, whom I love, Listen to HIM." Are you kidding me: ? 2 Timothy 3:16 ? Parallel Verses New International Version All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, New Living Translation All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right. English Standard Version All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, New American Standard Bible All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; King James Bible All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: Holman Christian Standard Bible All Scripture is inspired by God and is profitable for teaching, for rebuking, for correcting, for training in righteousness, International Standard Version All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, Take care, Ismael
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  How do believers defend a god who is going to murder billions and pin it on them?

  by tootired2care in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.

  they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.

  - jerimiah 25:33.

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  MadGiant

  I would like to apologize in advance for any misspellings and errors. English is my second language. -

  With all due respect, don't you think you are been a little bit dishonest? You have to either believe in the whole bible or none of it. You don't throw out the parts that make you feel uncomfortable, they are part of the book.

  The god of the Hebrew scriptures "yhwh" was a jealous, arrogant, angry, sadistic been (S.O.B.) and the god of the Greek scriptures "yeshua" (assuming their was a real historical demigod as portrayed in the Bible) was an a-hole. Stop making excuses for your invisible "daddies in the sky". PS: stop with the electricity analogies, you do not refuse to look at dangerous things, rather you learned how to handle them safely.
  The bible is much more that John 3:16.
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  Not all believers in a creator are dumb, may be deaf, so accomplished atheist explain this:--

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  MadGiant

  Farkel-

  Otra cosa (no quiero descarrilar la discusión) ¿Cómo es posible que un veterano panelista tan respetado como tu recurra a técnicas de propaganda, atacando sólo la escritura de otro panelista sin atacar sus argumentos? Ismael