Posts by MadGiant

14

KNOCK KNOCK JW AT YOUR DOOR

by megaflower in

jw
friends

how would you respond?

you have been out for the day and upon your return home you find the jw's came around and they where at your home talking to your kids(teens, one 20 year old).

the kids where never jw as the householder never was but lost family to the cult and of course is bitter.

MadGiant

I agree with crazycate, information is the “word”. Try using Leolaia project. Eventually they will find JW outside your door.

Take care,

Ismael

21

WHAT WAS WT FIRST SCANDAL?

by badboy in

jw
friends

was it the divorce?.

WHAT WAS WT FIRST SCANDAL?

by badboy in

jw
friends

was it the divorce?.

MadGiant

I am not a witness, but I will dare to say 1874. It was this date that they believed and taught Jesus’ invisible returned to earth to set up his new Kingdom.

That date, was dropped and replaced later with the new date of 1914 for Jesus’ invisible return to earth.

Take care,

Ismael

32

anyone learn a second language as an adult?...what is best method?

by oompa in

jw
friends

need to learn spanish and do not want to start attending spanish congo!!!!

!...............................oompa.

MadGiant

Hi oompa, hope all is well:

Have you tried watching TV in Spanish.

You can’t start with soap operas or ½ hour comedy programs. You can turn on the caption on your TV so you can follow the plot.

Good luck.

Ismael

The thing is that; tienes que comenzar a practicarlo constantemente para que de esta manera tu cabeza comience a procesar la información. Eventualmente es como un interruptor automático. Puedes procesar los dos idiomas a la vez sin tener que pensar.

Suerte,

Ismael

24

Moments of Epiphany... and other touchstones in life...

by AK - Jeff in

when i realized that 1975 was past, and the end appeared no closer than before.when a boe made up of men i had 'served' with for better than a decade were willing to write a letter of 'recommedation' that was character assassination at it's finest, and then defend the lies within with a straight face and no remorse.when i began to notice that many of the 'friends' seemed mentally unstable, in an organization that claimed it offered the greatest hope for mankind and the 'only true brotherhood' of supporter's available.when i saw a 'bible student' who was refused any assistance in her move to another congregation because of her sins before she was ever baptized [she never was in fact].when i was 'allowed' to conduct funerals and weddings that needed a minister, but for people who were too soiled in one way or another for the self-righteous upper-crust elders to touch.

yet they all attended and seemed to rejoice/mourn with all others in attendance.the day in the early 90's when i read a critique of jehovah's witnesses in which the author roundly condemned jw's eschatology regarding the '1914 generation', and in such article stated that they would have to renounce such foolish reasoning soon, before the end of the century to avoid being the 'relgious laughingstock' of the world.the day in 1995 when i saw his predictions come precisely true in the watchtower.when i watched and saw no other jw's bothered by this massive change in position.the months that i compiled a chart in which, using actuarial mortality figures, in which i applied the numbers, age-group by age-group to the 'annointed' from 1941 to 2002, and saw that it was empirically impossible for 8500 to still be alive.the month in which i read ray franz' books, and found myself aware that my life was about to change forever.october 2006, when after 3 years of 'fading' and staying out of sight, i submitted my letter of disassociation, and saw a look of happiness on the face of the friend-elder that took the document, though it meant the end of 20 years of personal friendship with him.the day my cousin - my best friend for 35 years - decided i was unworthy of even a reply to a simple email.the list is longer.

but so theraputic to put in words.

MadGiant

Hi AK – Jeff, hope all is well:

Quote:

· The months that I compiled a chart in which, using actuarial mortality figures, in which I applied the numbers, age-group by age-group to the 'annointed' from 1941 to 2002, and saw that it was empirically impossible for 8500 to still be alive.

Out of curiosity; do you still have that chart?

Take care,

Ismael

144

Is Jesus Jehovah?

by lostsheep82 in

i'm watching some youtube video's from newagegamer3018.

before in my research...i watched some of his video's when he was a jw apoligist.

now he has da'd himself and is defending the scriptures, not jw's.. this is the first time ever that i actually am starting to think/beleive that jesus and jehovah are the same thing.

MadGiant

I don’t get it either, but maybe this will help.

Another Look at the Trinity

The Trinity can be a difficult concept to understand. Some think it is a logical contradiction. Others call it a mystery. Does the Bible teach it? Yes it does, but that doesn't automatically make it easier to comprehend.
The Trinity is defined as one God who exists in three eternal, simultaneous, and distinct persons known as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Such a definition may suffice for some, but for others this explanation is insufficient.
Therefore, to help understand the Trinity better, I offer the following analogy that, I think, is hinted at in Rom. 1:20: "For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made."

Notice that this verse says God's attributes, power, and nature, can be clearly seen in creation. What does that mean? Should we be able to learn about God's attributes, power, and nature by looking at what He has made? Apparently, according to the Bible, this is possible.

When a painter paints a picture, what is in him is reflected in the painting he produces. When a sculptor creates a work of art, it is from his heart and mind that the source of the sculpture is born. The work is shaped by his creative ability. The creators of art leave their marks, something that is their own, something that reflects what they are. Is this the same with God? Has God left His fingerprints on creation? Of course He has.

As the Trinitarian doctrine maintains, each of the persons of the Godhead is distinct, yet they are all each, by nature, God.
With time, for example, the past is distinct from the present, which is distinct from the future. Each is simultaneous. Yet, they are not three 'times,' but one. That is, they all share the same nature: time
With space, height is distinct from width, which is distinct from depth, which is distinct from height. Yet, they are not three 'spaces,' but one. That is, they all share the same nature: space.
With matter, solid is not the same as liquid, which is not the same as gas, which is not the same as solid. Yet, they are not three 'matters,' but one. That is, they all share the same nature: matter.

Note that there are three sets of threes. In other words, there is a trinity of trinities. If we were to look at the universe and notice these qualities within it, is it fair to say that these are the fingerprints of God upon His creation? I think so. Not only is this simply an observation, but it is also a good source for an analogy of the Trinity.

A Criticism of Trinitarianism

Some critiques of the Trinitarian doctrine say that the Trinity is really teaching three gods, not one. They will say that God the Father, and God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit would make three gods, since the Father plus the Son plus the Holy Spirit would make three. But this is not a logical necessity. Instead of adding, why not multiply? One times one times one equals one. Why must addition be the criteria by which the doctrine is judged? It need not be. Rather, the doctrine should stand or fall based upon biblical revelation, not human logic. Nevertheless, let me draw an analogy from creation itself to illustrate the doctrine of the Trinity.
An Analogy of the Trinity

To continue with the observation about the Trinitarian nature of creation, I would like to use 'time' to illustrate the Trinity. Is the "past" plus the "present" plus the "future" a total of three times? Not at all. It simply is a representation of three distinct aspects of the nature of time: past, present, and future. Likewise, the Father and the Son and Holy Spirit are not three separate beings or entities, but three distinct persons in the one nature of the Godhead.

One more comment about Jesus. All cults deny that Jesus is God, the creator of the universe, in flesh. Various objections are raised saying that Jesus could not be God, otherwise, He would be praying to Himself, etc. Let's work with the analogy above, and continue with 'time' as our illustration.

Let's take 'present' and add to it human nature. Present, then, would have two natures: time and man. If 'present' were truly human then he would be able to communicate with us, tell us much, and we could see and touch him. But, because he is also 'time' by nature, he would be able to tell us both the past and the future as he manifested the 'time' nature within him. If 'present' then, communicated with the past and the future, it would not mean he was communicating with himself, but with the distinctions known as the past and the future.

I know that this is only an analogy. But I think it is a good, though basic, illustration of God's nature as expressed in Trinitarian expression.

http://www.carm.org/doctrine/trinity.htm

http://www.carm.org/doctrine/trin_against.htm

http://www.carm.org/doctrine/whatisthetrinity.htm

Take care,
Ismael

53

Your favourite wise quote? Mine is...

by Newborn in

jw
friends

"don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened".

(do i dare to think what may come from oompa, joe d, outlaw etc).

.

MadGiant

""Faith" means not wanting to know what is true." - Friedrich Nietzche

"A faith that cannot survive collision with the truth is not worth many regrets." - Arthur C. Clarke

“Never explain--your friends do not need it and your enemies will not believe you anyway.” - Elbert Hubbard

Take care,

Ismael

13

DO JWS HAVE A VIEW ON CICHLIDS SPECIES?

by badboy in

jw
friends

there are thousands of cichlids species in both lake victoria and malawi, believed to have arrived from the former..

MadGiant

I don’t agree with Gregor.

If we have a global flood, the halinity in the water with is measured in mg/L or ppm will be affected. That means that many species (algae, bacteria, fish, mammals, etc) with survive in salt or fresh water will be affected. Because the salinity of the water will chance, that’s for the salt water creatures. And there will be salt (at least some) for the fresh water ones.

Take care,

Ismael

42

List of do's and dont's on a first date..........

by mtsgrad in

jw
friends

i was planning on wearing my hairy chest and medallion.

can i have some more do's and dont's please?

MadGiant

Hope this help.

Do

1. Be on time - The last thing you want to do is make a bad impression on your date. If you are late they will think that you don`t care and worse still might not hang around for you to turn up.

2. Make your partner feel comfortable - We all feel like a bag of nerves on our first date with someone; so by making them feel comfortable you will also be able to relax and enjoy yourself.

3. Be an interesting date - The worse thing you can do is turn up for a date with someone then sit there all night and talk or worse still talking and not making sense or having nothing good to talk about.

4. Laugh at their jokes - Even if you have heard the joke 100 times or more (or it just isn`t funny at all) laughing a long with them will make them feel you are interested in them.

5. Keep the conversation alive - That dreaded silence when no one knows what to say can seem to last for a life time and will make both of you think the other is boring. Jot down a few questions you would like to ask. Practicing for the date can make all the difference and once you have started the rest will just follow. Here are a few conversation starters you could use.

6. Take an interest in them - Listen to them when they are talking. Be interested in what they have to say and show how interested you are by asking them questions about what they like to do etc..

7. Take them somewhere unique - First dates don`t just have to be about going to the cinema or to a restaurant for a nice meal. You will make a longer, lasting impression if you are imaginative with your date.

8. Be confident - Confidence says a lot about a person. Being more confident will help you get through that first date with ease.

9. Be yourself - You won`t fool anyone by pretending to be someone you are not. Also if you are wanting to continue seeing them, the real you will come out eventually and they may no longer be interested.

10. Most importantly - STAY SAFE. Check out our guide to dating safely

Don't

1. Be late - First impressions count and if you are late this will make them think of you as lazy, having lack of responsibilities, etc..

2. Talk about yourself all night - There is nothing worse then a person that loves to talk about themselves all the time. How vain can you get?

3. Talk about past relationships all night - May be that`s how you lost the last one. Nobody wants to hear you drone on about your ex and what they did or didn`t do. Concentrate on this one and see if you can get to the second date.

4. Eat with your mouth open - Just the thought of it makes my stomach turn so save your date the horrible experience.

5. Ask too many personal questions - This is your first date and they won`t want to reveal to much about themselves just yet. If you like each other and want to continue with the relationship then there will be plenty of time to ask questions.

6. Try to be something you are not - You will only attract the way that you act and if that is not the real you, when the real you does come out the other person will not be interested. Find someone that will want you for you not for what you are pretending to be.

7. Forget to thank them for the date - Not only is this good manners but this is where you will get your chance to end it if you are not interested or for you to ask them out on another date if you would like to see them again.

8. Propose marriage or kids - Unless you don`t want to see them again.

9. Pursue sex after your partner has said no.

10. Don`t get drunk - You don`t want to spend half the night in the toilet vomiting and your date won`t think much of you. You can also put yourself at risk of unwanted advances and will not be in the right frame of mind or body to do anything about it.

Take care,

Ismael

http://dating-advice.suite101.com/article.cfm/first_date_dos_and_donts

http://www.love-sessions.com/first_date.htm

http://www.mamashealth.com/dating/firstdate.asp

http://love.ivillage.com/snd/snddodonts/0,,7mdh,00.html

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Let's Discuss These Predictions....

by AnaA in

the first link below takes you to a long list of prophecies that were issued in the mid-1990's, that have all come to pass exactly as predicted.

it also provides you with a link to yahoo's official archives which prove they were issued in writing, in the 1990's.

as you will see: every detail, to include our wars with iraq, the actors involved, and how it will end, was prophesied in writing, in the 1990's.

MadGiant

Welcome:

Remember that the big A is around the corner, very, very close, it so close we can smell it, it tomorrow at 6:00 am eastern time.

The world is pretty much the same it was a couple of centuries ago. People have access now to more information faster, and in some cases in real time. Probably, we are getting scare of all the things that are happening, but if you take a brief look to our history you are going to find out that everything still the same:

1. The Black Death, or the Black Plague, was one of the deadliest pandemics in human history.
The pandemic is thought to have begun in Central Asia or India and spread to Europe during the 1340s. The total number of deaths worldwide is estimated at 75 million people. The Black Death is estimated to have killed 30% to 60% of Europe's population. Bubonic plague is thought to have returned to Europe every generation with varying virulence and mortalities until the 1700s.

2. Famine is a widespread shortage of food that may apply to any faunal species, which phenomenon is usually accompanied by regional malnutrition, starvation, epidemic, and increased mortality.

During the 20th century, an estimated 70 million people died from famines across the world, of whom an estimated 30 million died during the famine of 1958–61 in China, just China.

Some examples:
• 1702-1704 famine in Deccan, India, killed 2 million people
• 1708-1711 famine in East Prussia killed 250,000 people or 41% of its population
• 1770-1771 famine in Czech lands killed hundreds of thousands people
• 1784-1785 famine in Tunisia killed up to one-fifth of all Tunisiansd
• Four famines - in 1810, 1811, 1846, and 1849 - in China claimed nearly 45 million lives2]
• 1811-1812 famine devastated Madrid, taking nearly 20,000 lives
• 1815 eruption Tambora, Indonesia. Tens of thousands died of subsequent famine
• 1830 famine killed almost half the population of Cape Verde
• 1845-1849 Great Irish Famine killed more than 1 million people
• 1850-1873 as a result of Taiping Rebellion, drought, and famine, the population of China drop by over 60 million people]
• 1866 Orissa famine of 1866 in India; one million perished
• 1866-1868 Famine in Finland. About 15% of the entire population died
• 1869 Rajputana famine of 1869 in India; one million and a half perished
• 1870-1871 famine in Persia is believed to have caused the death of 2 million persons.
• 1914-1918 Mount Lebanon famine during World War I which killed about a third of the population
• 1914-1918 famine in Belgium
• 1916-1917 famine caused by the British blockade of Germany in WWI; up to 750,000 Germans starved to death
• 1917-1919 famine in Persia. As much as 1/4 of the population living in the north of Iran died in the famine
• 1917-1921 a series of famines in Turkestan at the time of the Bolshevik revolution killed about a sixth of the population
• 1921 famine in Russia killed 5 million[52]
• 1921-1922 famine in Volga German colonies in Russia. One-third of the entire population perished[53]
• 1928-1929 famine in northern China. The drought resulted in 3 million deaths
• 1932-1933 Soviet famine in Ukraine (Holodomor), some parts of Russia[54] and North Caucasus area.[55] As many as 10 million people may have died[56]
• 1932-1933 famine in Kazakhstan killed 1.2-1.5 million[57]
• 1936 famine in China, with an estimated 5 million fatalities[58]
• 1941-44 Leningrad famine caused by a 900-day blockade by Nazi and Finnish troops. About one million Leningrad residents starved, froze, or were bombed to death in the winter of 1941-42, when supply routes to the city were cut off and temperatures dropped to -40 degrees.
• 1941-1942 famine in Greece caused by Nazi occupation.[59] An estimated 300,000 people perished
• 1942-1943 famine killed one million in China
• 1944 famine in the Netherlands during World War II, more than 20,000 deaths
• 1946-1947 famine in Soviet Union killed 1-1.5 million[60]
• 1958 Famine in Tigray, Ethiopia, claimed 100,000 lives
• 1959-1961 Great Leap Forward / The Great Chinese Famine (China). The official statistic is 20 million deaths, as given by Hu Yaobang
• 1998-2004 Second Congo War. 3.8 million people died, mostly from starvation and disease

War, the list is incomplete:
• 60,000,000–72,000,000 - World War II (1939–1945)
• 30,000,000–60,000,000 - Mongol Conquests (13th century)
• 25,000,000 - Manchu conquest of Ming China (1616–1662)
• 20,000,000–70,000,000 - World War I (1914–1918)
• 20,000,000 - Taiping Rebellion (China, 1851–1864)
• 20,000,000 - Second Sino-Japanese War (1937–1945)
• 10,000,000 - Warring States Era (China, 475 BC–221 BC)
• 7,000,000 - 20,000,000 Conquests of Timur the Lame
• 5,000,000–9,000,000 - Russian Civil War and Foreign Intervention (1917–1921)
• 5,000,000 - Conquests of Menelik II of Ethiopia (1882- 1898)
• 3,800,000 - 5,400,000 - Second Congo War (1998–2007)
• 3,500,000–6,000,000 - Napoleonic Wars (1804–1815)
• 3,000,000–11,500,000 - Thirty Years' War (1618–1648)
• 3,000,000–7,000,000 - Yellow Turban Rebellion (China, 184–205)
• 2,500,000–3,500,000 - Korean War (1950–1953) (see Cold War)
• 2,300,000–3,800,000 - Vietnam War (entire war 1945–1975)
o 300,000–1,300,000 - First Indochina War (1945–1954)
o 100,000–300,000 - Vietnamese Civil War (1954–1960)
o 1,750,000–2,100,000 - American phase (1960–1973)
o 170,000 - Final phase (1973–1975)
o 175,000–1,150,000 - Secret War (1962–1975)
• 2,000,000–4,000,000[60] - French Wars of Religion (1562–1598)
• 2,000,000 - Shaka's conquests (1816-1828)
• 2,000,000 - Mahmud of Ghazni's invasions of India (1000-1027)
• 300,000–3,000,000[63] - Bangladesh Liberation War (1971)
• 1,500,000–2,000,000 - Afghan Civil War (1979 -)
o 1,000,000–1,500,000 Soviet intervention (1979–1989)
• 1,300,000–6,100,000 - Chinese Civil War (1928–1949)
o 300,000–3,100,000 before 1937
o 1,000,000–3,000,000 after World War II
• 1,000,000–2,000,000 - Mexican Revolution (1910–1920)
• 1,000,000 - Iran–Iraq War (1980–1988)
• 1,000,000 - Japanese invasions of Korea (1592-1598)
• 1,000,000 - Second Sudanese Civil War (1983–2005)
• 550,000 - Somali Civil War (1988 - )
• 200,000 - Algerian Civil War (1991 - )
• 0 - Pig War (1859)

I used to believe, as a good American that we were the mighty superpower of the world, that probably was truth in the 50’s, 60’s, 70’s, 80’s and 90’s but today they make us think that we are the center of the world, but we work for a Chinese company. In other words the rest of the world does not care that much about us anymore.

Takce care,

Ismael