Posts by MadGiant

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What Do Mormons Really Believe? RE: The Nov. 8, 1995 Awake Magazine

by D_Rolling_Kearney in

i am a member of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints, and i have written a heavily-documented response to the official magazine of the jehovah's witnesses, awake!, that claims to teach what we believe.

i saw an article from last year's watchtower about a guy who had barely been mormon for very long, and obviously did not know what we believe, who was given this magazine by jw's to show him "the truth.

" he claims to have proven to himself that it was true from information on the lds church's website.

MadGiant

@D_Rolling:

Take a look at these videos, we can start our "honest discussion" after.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5F1EB3B4F919226D

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What Do Mormons Really Believe? RE: The Nov. 8, 1995 Awake Magazine

by D_Rolling_Kearney in

i am a member of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints, and i have written a heavily-documented response to the official magazine of the jehovah's witnesses, awake!, that claims to teach what we believe.

i saw an article from last year's watchtower about a guy who had barely been mormon for very long, and obviously did not know what we believe, who was given this magazine by jw's to show him "the truth.

" he claims to have proven to himself that it was true from information on the lds church's website.

MadGiant

"MAD GIANT - Alert - Facebook took down your page !!" - villagegirl

Sorry about that. The link worked a year back.
Here is the guy web page:

http://mrdeity.com/index-underconstruction2013.html

And his youtube channel:

http://youtube.com/user/misterdeity

And yes, they are crazy.

"MadGiant- is that what Mormons believe? I knew they were wacked out but that is even crazier than I thought!" - factfinder

Don't take my word for it. Just do a little research, read from opposer, apologetics and critics then draw your own conclusions.

"I was also looking for an honest discussion." - D_Rolling

Your really make my laugh, a religious person asking for an honest discussion about religion.

Oxymoron:
An oxymoron (plural oxymora or oxymorons) is a figure of speech that juxtaposes elements that appear to be contradictory. Oxymora appear in a variety of contexts, including inadvertent errors (such as "ground pilot") and literary oxymorons crafted to reveal a paradox.

Examples:

I am a deeply superficial person. - Andy Warhol
Of course I can keep secrets. It’s the people I tell them to that can’t keep them. - Anthony Haden-Guest
She used to diet on any kind of food she could lay her hands on. - Arthur Baer
I distinctly remember forgetting that. - Clara Barton
I was also looking for an honest discussion." - D_Rollin

take care,

ismael

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What Do Mormons Really Believe? RE: The Nov. 8, 1995 Awake Magazine

by D_Rolling_Kearney in

i am a member of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints, and i have written a heavily-documented response to the official magazine of the jehovah's witnesses, awake!, that claims to teach what we believe.

i saw an article from last year's watchtower about a guy who had barely been mormon for very long, and obviously did not know what we believe, who was given this magazine by jw's to show him "the truth.

" he claims to have proven to himself that it was true from information on the lds church's website.

MadGiant

"I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and I have written a heavily-documented response to the official magazine of the Jehovah's Witnesses, Awake!, that claims to teach what we believe." - D_Rolling

"I saw an article from last year's Watchtower about a guy who had barely been Mormon for very long, and obviously did not know what we believe," - D_Rolling

This is a transcript from a video:

I'm Brian Dalton. I'm the writer, director, and creator of the "Mr. Deity Show."

Well, for the first 27 years of my life, I was a Latter-Day Saint — a Mormon. Uhm... I' lef the Church in 1993...
(Laughs) Yeah, that's an understatement. My life has changed in some pretty dramatic ways.
How has it changed? Uhm... I guess, in general, I'd just say that its a lot less... crazy. For instance...

The slightly crazy...

I no longer believe in the Golden plates of "Reformed Egyptian."

I no longer believe that the Hebrews were a "white and delightsome" people 600 years before Christ.

I no longer believe that men who claim to speak for God reveal anything but their own arrogance and self-delusion.

I no longer believe in three heavens.

I no longer believe in excommunicating historians whose only fault is telling the truth.

I no longer believe that I am a literal spirit child of God.

I no longer worry about a sip of wine or enjoying a cup of coffee.

I no longer believe that when the prophet speaks, the thinking has been done.

The slightly more crazy...

I no longer believe that we all have a mother in heaven.

I no longer believe that God is such a poor communicator that he said "horse" but meant "deer."

I no longer believe that a burning in my bosom is any indication of truth or value.

I no longer believe that Jesus visited the Americas after his resurrection.

I no longer believe that an institution which changes its doctrines as our culture evolves is in any way directed by a transcendent being.

I no longer believe that other men understand God better than I do, or speak for and/or with him on a regular basis.

The fairly crazy...

I no longer believe that the Native Americans are Hebrews.

I no longer believe that homosexuality is a sin.

I no longer believe in secret handshakes, key words, or new names.

I no longer believe in a place called "Adam-ondi-ahman" or that the Garden of Eden was in Jackson County, Missouri.

I no longer believe in taking oaths of secrecy.

I no longer believe that Jesus and Satan are brothers.

I no longer five 10% of my gross income to a multi-billion dollar corporation.

I no longer believe that a stone knife is a good substitute for what the Book of Mormon very specifically calls a "steel sword."

The fully crazy...

I no longer believe that black people are black because they fought less valiantly in some war in heaven.

I no longer believe that polygamy was ever a divine institution or that God may have many wives.

I no longer believe in prophets who taught that there were people on the moon.

I no longer believe that God is merely an exalted man with a body of flesh and bone.

I no longer believe that women are unqualified or ill-suited for leadership positions in any organization.

I no longer believe that God once lived on a planet just as we do now.

The batshit crazy...

I no longer believe in a god who punishes people by darkening their skin.

I no longer believe that an ordinary Egyptian funerary text from the Common Era contains the writings of Father Abraham.

I no longer believe that I can become a god with him own universe, planets, and people to worship me.

I no longer believe in being vicariously baptized for dead people.

I no longer believe that our god is merely one god in a potentially infinite series of gods.

I no longer believe that dark-skinned people can become light-skinned people by living the Mormon gospel.

I no longer wear religiously prescribed underwear, nor do I believe that such a thing protects anyone.

I no longer believe that God lives on or near a planet or star named "Kolob."

I no longer believe that placing one's face in a hat containing a "seer-stone" is a reliable means of translating an ancient language.

The unconscionable...

I no longer believe that my happiness is enhanced by my obedience to other men's ideas of how I should live my life.

I'm Brian Dalton. I'm a writer. I'm a director. I'm a rational human being.
And I'm a Formon (former Mormon).

And keep an eye out for David Fitzgerald's excellent new book on Mormonism (soon to be released):
http://www.facebook.com/TheCompleteHe...

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12-year-old girls stabbed friend 19 times to please a mythological creature

by cantleave in

http://abcnews.go.com/us/wirestory/12-year-wisconsin-girls-stab-friend-19-times-23959855.

sound familiar?.

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MadGiant

http://youtu.be/NFyekTrObRc

"How about Jephthah?"

Edit > Find > Jephthah
http://glenster1.webs.com/basicspage2.htm - glenster

Man, have to read the whole thing until I found the Jephathah part. It's isn't that complicated.

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How to spot a sociopath - 10 red flags that could save you from being swept under the influence of a charismatic nut job

by Londo111 in

jw
friends

http://www.naturalnews.com/036112_sociopaths_cults_influence.html.

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MadGiant

Thanks

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12-year-old girls stabbed friend 19 times to please a mythological creature

by cantleave in

http://abcnews.go.com/us/wirestory/12-year-wisconsin-girls-stab-friend-19-times-23959855.

sound familiar?.

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MadGiant

From the article: "The girls, both from Waukesha, a Milwaukee suburb, told investigators they had been planning to kill their 12-year-old friend for months to please Slenderman, a fictional demon-like creature they learned about through a horror website, according to a criminal complaint."

That girl should be set free immediately. She was trying to please her fictional character.

"Yeah, but God stopped Abraham" - savojr

How about Jephthah?

take care,

Ismael

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12-year-old girls stabbed friend 19 times to please a mythological creature

by cantleave in

http://abcnews.go.com/us/wirestory/12-year-wisconsin-girls-stab-friend-19-times-23959855.

sound familiar?.

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MadGiant

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What happened in Christianity ? O.T prophets were male & female ,God was not gender specific,

by smiddy in

jw
friends

according to scripture they could.

sure in jw land anybody could partake of the emblems and wine , male and female denoting they could be rulers with christ in his heavenly kingdom , however did many of these partakers actually have any say with the governing body ?

in fact did any of them have any say in their own kingdom halls ?

MadGiant

"The bible gave prominence to women and their contribution to religion. OT . The WT goes against scripture and demotes women to second class citizens, even though the bible clearly states women can be ruling with Christ in the heavens in Jesus christs thousand year reign.

But of course they have no say at all while down here on earth , not at all , no way.Does this in anyway make sense ?" - smiddy

Are you sure that it's only the WT, and not the bible or the NT, that demoted women to second class citizens?

1. The "natural use" of a woman is to serve the physical needs of men (Romans 1:27).
2. "The head of the woman is the man" (1 Corinthians 11:3). 3. "For the husband is the head of the wife" (Ephesians 5:22-24; see also Colossians 3:18; 1 Peter 3:1).
4. Old women must be "obedient to their husbands" (Titus 2:3, 5).
5. Women are to be silent in church (1 Corinthians 14:34-35). 6. Women must "learn in silence with all subjection" (1 Timothy 2:9).
7. Women are subordinate to men because of the sin of Eve (1 Timothy 2:14-15).
8. Women must dress modestly (1 Timothy 2:9).

Then you have (Revelation 14:3-4).

I don't know, I think that the whole book was written by male chauvinist pigs.

Praying that all will recognize that liberal notions of equality are antithetical to the Bible.

Take care,

Ismael

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What is the current Net worth of the Watchtower Society?

by Scott77 in

as of june 01,2014, please what do you think in term of us dollars, is the current net worth of the watchtower society?.

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MadGiant

¿?

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20111016/REAL_ESTATE/310169968/hallelujah-jehovahs-witnesses-land-sell-off-has-brooklyn-dreaming-big

Oct 16, 2011 12:01 am

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Rooming request

by paladin in

jw
friends

we received a phone call from the summer convention rooming department representative.

he requested that our complimentary room payment for our three day stay be paid at the rooming dept.

and not to the hotel.

MadGiant

Commissions paid?

Volume of revenue?

2.0 percent per room?

Volume?

What's next, airlines, car rental?

Thank You and Welcome, this is your Watchtower travel agent. How may I help you?