"MadGiant, morals may be a product of our evolutionary heritage, but they are not logical." -
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"I am not sure if I understood your post, Morals are a product of reason/survival." - MadGiant
I still think that morals are a product of reason and survival. We don't have a sense of right, wrong or justice, we developed them within culture and society. And adjust them to ensure survival.
Reason and logic are two different concepts. The only similarity between reasoning and logic is that they both are types of thinking. Otherwise they are just the opposite.
Reason is subject to personal opinion, whereas logic is an actual science that follows clearly defined rules and tests for critical thinking.
"Even athiests attempt to break through a believer's mental armour by pointing out that some of the activities of the OT god are morally reprehensible." -
I agreed, but is thru reason. I know that many situations can lead you to accept a choice using logic instead of reason. But I think morals is a product reason/survival.
Ismael