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  Has being a JW effected your ability to make or keep friends?

  by PEC in

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  michael jackson has been quoted as having no friends.

  some here would like to blame his jw upbringing.. being a exjw, do you have trouble making and/or keeping friends?.

  philip.

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  EversoGrateful and Shopoholic, my thoughts exactly. Growing up and moving around a lot, no matter WHERE you went, you always walked into a new Hall and presto! The less you knew about life, the better a Witness you were...the easier it was to associate with others. Even through the varying degree's of "spirituality" that people had in the hall, pretty much EVERYONE had one thing in common - I just didnt realize it was retardation at the time. Seriously though, it was a cinch in so many ways. Hell, you didnt even have to pay attention..lol

  Being a dub, no matter what the question was, there was ALWAYS an answer. Often times it was a reply, but it was still an answer of sorts. You could NEVER, EVER, actually just BE. Be.

  You are left to figure shit out for yourself when you leave. That takes some serious time too, and there is a LOT. In that period of time, your learning, and it's those things that many people already know. About the world, and more importantly themselves.

  Yeah. Not only do you have to try and figure out the "world". You have to figure out who you are. Double whammy...and if you get caught up thinking about the things that don't really count, it's even more difficult. Nope, difficult is an understatement.
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  How key was "Releasing the Bonds" in your letting go?

  by lurk3r in

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  i finally ordered "releasing the bonds".

  being a notorius procrastinator, i finally put it off long enough.ha.

  cognitive dissonance.

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  when you see clearly how cults work, you no longer think, "what if they're right?"

  Thank You Mrs Florini - I have seen you recommend these books many times over, as does Outlaw and others. I recognize that since so many feel its an essential read, it must be a significant step. I love the fact that it's not exclusively applicable to WT doctrine either. I would like to ask more questions...but will excersize some patience and try not to be too optomistic about it all. Thank ya. Im not so much stuck on the "what if their right?", it's more of a " I have a whole ton of shit floating around, I need to purge it somehow" kinda feeling. Perhaps instead of taking every question or thought, beat the hell out of it and make a decision, just drop it alltogether and start picking up what I feel I should pick up. I'm tired of wasting life on all of the things that matter, only because I think they do.

  JimmyPage - When you do order it, you'll want to make sure you order directly from Steven Hassans personal website. In talking to a lady there (his receptionist perhaps) with a fantastic accent, she asked me to "spread the word" with regards the order process. Apparently their distributor has gone bankrupt, and as a result, Amazon and other online bookstores are selling the RTB for insane prices now. She said they have a few thousand copies on hand, and its in the 25.00 range.

  homeschool - I havent given up...yet. Anything I CAN do, is better than not. I should have read it AGES ago though. It really boils down to Grow or Die, tomorrow is finally here. ( i think..lol) ATJ wrote a wicked thread a while back on FadingvsLeaving (something like that) and brought out a lot of good points worthy of consideration. Did ya read it?

  Fading can be a long ass road. It's time to do it for me now. Selfish isn't always a dirty word.

  lurk3r
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  another Michael Jackson joke... add yours (no accounting for good taste :P

  by SnakesInTheTower in

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  so you heard that with all the surgeries michael jackson had over the years that he was probably 99% plastic?

  after the autopsy is done, the body is to be shipped to the lego factory.

  ...yeah, they are going to melt him down into legos........ .

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  As the two paramedics approached MJ at his home, one said to the other "What do you think we should try first?" The other replied "I dont know, maybe the ferris wheel?"
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  Has being a JW effected your ability to make or keep friends?

  by PEC in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  michael jackson has been quoted as having no friends.

  some here would like to blame his jw upbringing.. being a exjw, do you have trouble making and/or keeping friends?.

  philip.

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  Huge. Growing up as a JW, and in turn becoming dependant on a lifestyle with superficial as the base, making quality friends on the outside is tough. Keeping friends, can be tough too, you need a lot more than meetings and Borg Service in common to maintain something thats actually real.

  On the flip side - its great to know what a real friend actually is.
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  Did Everyone Really Love Michael Jackson? (I'm Confused)

  by minimus in

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  everyone talked about him as being a weirdo.

  a pedo.

  a freak.

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  I have been thinking the same thing. It boggles my mind. "Imperfect" people feel like this...I'm hoping God is love, and in this overall direction.
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  How key was "Releasing the Bonds" in your letting go?

  by lurk3r in

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  i finally ordered "releasing the bonds".

  being a notorius procrastinator, i finally put it off long enough.ha.

  cognitive dissonance.

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  I finally ordered "Releasing the Bonds". Being a notorius procrastinator, I finally put it off long enough.ha

  Cognitive dissonance. I think I finally get it. I recognized it for myself just the other week reading a post, on the DC highlites. When the Society says "Education is a concious matter"...followed closely by, "Jehovah will not bless you", it creates the whole "belief" conflict. Have i got that right?

  I was curious about Mr Hassans book, for those of you that have read it. Was it instrumental in your letting go once and for all? As clear as it is so many times to me, that JW's do not have the "truth" exclusively, I still fall back into this whole line of thinking that I "should", and deep down I know it's the comfort factor. I'd rather be uncomfortable than live the lie. It's tough though.

  Anyways, I'm really excited to get the book! I WANT it. You come to all these little "understandings" along the way when ya leave. But so often, despite them, you get right back to "old thinking". Is RTB key in the process of rediscoveing ones self? How did it afffect you personally? Would ya share it with me?

  lurk3r
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  Funny Names with Double Meaning

  by dig692 in

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  just saw the episode of the simpsons where bart calls moe's tavern and asks for "amanda huggenkiss" and it made me laugh again .

  amanda huggenkiss.

  hugh jazz.

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  Hugh Jazz and Mike Litoris
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  Name Things JWs Believe That Are Not Actually Biblically Provable

  by minimus in

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  here's one example: being a congregation publisher.

  nowhere in the bible does it say you should be a "publisher" and turn in your time if you preach.

  they try to twist the scriptures by saying that numbers are constantly being recorded in the bible so then conforming to the rules of being a publisher is from the scriptures.. yeah, right..

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  that the "truth"..is the truth.
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  Releasing the Bonds - No longer being published.

  by lurk3r in

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  i went to a chapters store and tried to order mr. hassans book, and was told they can longer bring it in, as it is no longer published.

  has this news made it here onto the site?.

  amazon.ca has copies starting at 90.00, all the way to almost 275.00 !

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  Thanks a bunch MM, I will do that.

  Thank you as well Kahlua...I never knew about that site before.

  lurk3r
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  Releasing the Bonds - No longer being published.

  by lurk3r in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went to a chapters store and tried to order mr. hassans book, and was told they can longer bring it in, as it is no longer published.

  has this news made it here onto the site?.

  amazon.ca has copies starting at 90.00, all the way to almost 275.00 !

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  I went to a Chapters store and tried to order Mr. Hassans book, and was told they can longer bring it in, as it is no longer published. Has this news made it here onto the site?

  Amazon.ca has copies starting at 90.00, all the way to almost 275.00 ! All used. http://www.amazon.ca/gp/offer-listing/0967068800/ref=dp_olp_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1245815223&sr=8-1

  Yes I want to read it, nope I don't wanna have to pay so much.

  lurk3r