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"the heart is treacherous, who can know it"? What do you think "listening to your heart" entails?
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Nark- I appreciate the effort in commenting and trying to make sense of such things. I am beating around the bush a little bit with my question, and I never meant it to be in a metaphorical way whatsover.
Have you ever heard of a "state" in which one can "communicate" with ones heart directly? Would it be enlightenment which could produce such an effect, if at all possible?
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"the heart is treacherous, who can know it"? What do you think "listening to your heart" entails?
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"Genesis" spankings
by donny ini recently met a woman here at work (a contractor) and discovered she is an ex-jw.
eventually we got around to telling why each of us left the religion.
she said the main reason for her was not doctrines, but because she was tired of the physical and emotional abuse she received.
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I'm over it now, but imagine people who go through much worse things....it could take a lifetime and scars could still be left upon the victim's soul.
I posted my experiences for lurkers and people thinking of joining the jws. Please get away while you still can!
This thread and experiences related have moved me to want to comment. It's sad that so many can relate all too well to this thread. Rebel8 I can relate to many things you decide to share, thanks for that. I myself was a victim of a abuse at the hands of my father in particular, in some terribly sick ways. Humiliation IS the theme, subjection is the goal.
Fark. You are very right. After all, you do have it all laid out in black and white, and there is no denying, discipline was encouraged and enforcement followed.
I want to state for the record here, that I am not defending the borg with my following comments. I also don't want to make this thread about myself either, it's just a conclusion that I have drawn with regards the subject matter.
Many of us are victims, and for that we have every right to express our dismay however we see fit. My old man beat me, and I refuse to "blame" the society for it. Its not strictly a "JW" thing, like the blood issue for example. While the subject matter presented by Farkel is blatently out of touch with today, I don't think it is way out of line for the 50's. Times have changed, and are changing, no matter what religion you are part of.
Im not a dub, but my sister is. Just because she chooses to be a witness, does NOT mean she will beat her children. While I do not condone my fathers misgivings, I do forgive him. He was f@cked up, plain and simple. As hard as my family had it, I am sure that my father it it very hard in his family...perhaps i never got it as bad as he did. As bad as my father got it, perhaps HIS father got it even worse. I mean shit, even though the cult is a terrible place to be most of the time, I really think my father would or could have been worse. Maybe not, but my guts think so.
One other thing that kinda put some things in perspective for me, fairly recently, was a movie. Changeling. Way back when, ADULTS didn't generally question authority, and that in time has changed. Things have taken a while, but they ARE working their way down the road...and sadly, that road has been harder and more enduring for some than others.
If i DO blame the society for anything, it's for not letting people use their heads to actually THINK.
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a chick emailed me.........
by asilentone ina chick emailed me, she said "if anything, i will see you next week".
what does "if anything" mean?.
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god, i hate saying this, but it could be all about the context. what did she say before "if anything"? ha
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"Genesis" spankings
by donny ini recently met a woman here at work (a contractor) and discovered she is an ex-jw.
eventually we got around to telling why each of us left the religion.
she said the main reason for her was not doctrines, but because she was tired of the physical and emotional abuse she received.
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I received a lot of spankings as a kid. In "hind" sight they were pretty dang pathetic. Grown up and looking back on them, they weren't right. It boils down to fear once again, like so many things in religion. "Genesis" spankings though, that is a really messed up concept. The terribly sad part here, is that the spankings were most likey a concept that were instilled in the parents, by someone else. The great news is that this girl stopped the cycle of abuse. Good on her. I wonder how her siblings dealt with it? Would ya know by chance Donny?
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Awsome video. Well laid out. Watch the Org get some new light in the coming years that it will be proper for everyone to start drinking the wine...just like they do in other churches....they are going to have to cover their ass somehow!
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"mass exodus coming up in August 2009".
by hubert inthis was written in the topic...."blood lawsuit goes forward against the org.
conference call sat.
march 28".
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i love it betterdaze..hahaha.
Sad to say, but ANY exodus, mass or not will only boil down to one thing, and one thing only. It will STRENGTHEN the resolve of people who stay in, and leave them with, " the people who left, were never truly jehovahs witnesses". In fact, I believe, truly, that the ones still in would just point to this being something that indicates "that we are truly near the end". It's one big circle. I laugh at the irony of it all. Now.
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snowbird - maybe this could be 1 of many reasons they seem to be getting out of NY?
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Are Churches Revealing Connections to "Societies"?
by cameo-d inst. thomas church (nyc).
province of london.
mark master masons.
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I am positive this symbol, or one very close to it, is located in an area at the Vatican. Its not just a symbol portrayed on a picture either. There is an area, where this X is created with shadows coming off of a pole or something...i just watched a program on it the other day. Perhaps i must watch it again. The shadows that are "thrown" make an X according to the position of the sun, at its high points and low points.
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