It was many of the replies on this thread that I would put into the "brilliant" category.
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just thought i would share this.........a brother who used to be a mercenary before he came into the truth gave the talk at the hall yesterday and he said that the bible was like jehovah's cv.....it told us everything about him.....so we can really know him.. he also said with all the governments and all the rules and regulations in the world, and nothing working at the moment, we should appreciate that jehovah only has 2 laws.............love him above all other things, and love our neighbours..........if only the whole world obeyed those 2 laws there would be peace without the need for armageddon................so its all down to humans why things are going wrong.. if we abandoned the planet tomorrow the earth would repair itself and there would be peace and harmony in nature.......... man has really messed up.. thank goodness we have had the chance to know jehivah and have a hope for the future!!.
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It was many of the replies on this thread that I would put into the "brilliant" category.
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just found a letter from wt to my son acknowledging his letter to them asking for a bethel application and that is the letterhead at the top...and they signed it that way..........i have never heard of this!
!..........weird...anybody?.........i guess because it is about bethel they consider it like a convent or monastery?...................oompa.
oompa
*** yb95 5-6 ; Jehovah's Witnesses-1995 Yearbook Report ***
"Among the full-time workers were 15,145 members of the global Bethel family. They help to provide literature, supervision, and other beneficial services in support of the worldwide work of Bible education. Of these, 5,082 serve at the world headquarters in Brooklyn, New York, and at nearby facilities. All of them are members of the Order of Special Full-Time Servants, a religious order that is devoted exclusively to the ministry."
I believe there was a name change to this 'order' as in the 2003 yearbook it has changed a bit
2003 Yearbook page 30
"Worldwide, a total of 19,823 ordained ministers staff such branch facilities. All are members of the Worldwide Order of Special Full-Time Servants of Jehovah's Witnesses."
From what I gather it is purely for tax reasons. When they join bethel they take this "vow of poverty" which to me is laughable. Some of the minor plebs at bethel probably live in 'poverty' but the higher up ones (such as my BIL in the writing dept) do not live a lifestyle which could by any stretch of the imagination be called poverty. More like jetsetters.
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Hi from Brisbane
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thanks for your kind help...here she is, my darling...pls follow the link.
http://img217.imageshack.us/g/java3.jpg/.
lisa, what's your cats name?
Newborn your little Java is adorable. Thanks for the pics
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Newborn I think you have to upload the photo to a photo sharing site such as Photobucket. That's the one I use and it's quite simple to do. Then once you have uploaded the photo click on it and it brings up a box underneath or beside it called 'share this image' which has some url links. Copy the one that says direct link.
Then come back to the reply box on here and where you want to insert your pic in your message click on the little icon that looks like a tree. It brings up a box that says insert/edit image. Paste the url you copied off photobucket into the box that says Image URL. Then down the bottom of the box click the button that says insert. Then another box will come up saying you haven't put a description in or some such thing do you want to continue - just click yes.
That should do it.
Hope it works
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cleaning out two email accounts.
in my school email account, i had unread email going back to february of 2008. i had 1,500 messages total.
no, i didn't read most of it, but i did make a quick scan to make sure i wasn't deleting something important.
wow I feel so good after reading this. I now realize that letting my email account get to 100 or more unread emails is not bad at all. I am not the slacker I thought I was after all.
Thank you John Doe
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i sometimes fell that i don't.
i mean that i don't put out the long thought provoking posts of some, such as atjeff, and i don't delve deep into the socio-political arguments that are always flaring up between the cons and libs.
as a matter of fact, except for smartass comments, or contributions to fluff posts, i don't really add anything that matters.
After reading your OP I'd say you bring honesty to the board.
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about 2 mos ago...my parents decided that because i refused to continue my 'reinstatement' process and quit going to meetings - that they were now going to shun me after having regular contact for 10 mos!
i was upset, but accepted it.
although their method was harsh!
babygirl I meant to add to my last reply to you that the reason you are the last to know (as I will be in my family if ever) is that the mind controlled/brainwashed cult personality of our JW families is much stronger than their authentic personality. Their authentic one may show through for a few seconds or minutes but it usually is quickly pulled back in and the cult personality takes over. It sucks big time but that's the way it is.
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about 2 mos ago...my parents decided that because i refused to continue my 'reinstatement' process and quit going to meetings - that they were now going to shun me after having regular contact for 10 mos!
i was upset, but accepted it.
although their method was harsh!
In his phone call in January this year when my father (a proud elder) told me he and the rest of my family were going to cut me off and shun me (and my husband and son) for leaving JWs, I asked him if he wanted me to come to the hospital should he get sick. He is 74 and it is bound to happen one day. He said absolutely not. I asked then what if he dies am I to come to the funeral - again absolutely not. He said as far as my family is concerned I am now dead.
For 49 years as his daughter I showed him unconditional love no matter what, including his 25 years of alcoholism (while a JW), his mistreatment of my mother while she was alive (he was a JW), him having a 3 year affair with a sister in the congregation while he was the PO, him not going to meetings for 2 years after the affair, him training my young brother to be an alcoholic, and I could go on and on.
He told me in a conversation prior to the last one that my husband and I had done more to help him and mum financially, physcially and in every way than any other family member. I have never given them trouble, until now that is - fading from the JWs and telling him why when he confronted us. By the way I am not df'd or da'd.
So babygirl30 I understand your pain and frustration very well. It has been 10 months of emotional turmoil for me - being cut off from my entire family and not knowing what is happening in their lives.
On Wednesday I turned 50 and I had a fleeting hope that maybe my sister might text me or email me to acknowledge the day like she used to, but nothing which has really rammed it home to be that they really have totally cut me off.
I despise this cult more and more everyday.
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some witnesses speak to me quite normally/.
others avoid me like the plague.. how are you treated by the witnesses?.
My so called best friend started shunning me 3 years ago - before we had even fully faded. I have one JW friend that still phones me from time to time and others I bump into usually say hello.
However my entire JW family has been totally shunning me (and my husband and son) since January this year after we were given an ultimatum by them to go back to the meetings etc or they would cut us off. We didn't so they did. Even though we were a close family and I thought that would never happen, the brain washing/mind control overrode the family thing.
Yesterday was my 50th birthday, and even though we never celebrated birthdays as JWs, my sister, my mum when she was still alive and from time to time, my dad, would comment on my turning such and such an age. A happy birthday in a roundabout way. So yesterday I was in some sort of expectation that maybe my sister might email or text something, but no, not a word. That really rammed it home to me that they have really cut me off and as my father told me in our last phone conversation in January, as far as they are concerned I am dead.
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PS - My husband and son put on a little birthday thing last night for me which was lovely. My first birthday celebration at 50. I DESPISE THE WTS.