know how to contact him?
he hasn't posted since that last desperate post from last night.
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I just read PP's 2nd thread and he's in the Poole/Bournemouth area of Dorset, England. He mentioned in that thread feeling quite alone as an ex jw. Does anyone on the forum, particularly those around that area that have possibly talked to him or emailed him, have his contact details that they could check that he's OK.
Hoping he's OK
Hopscotch
well, they are up to their old tricks again.
trying to manipulate rank and file members views of what " real love " is again.. the title of the study article is " love that never fails " .
as my jw daughter so succinctly informed me a couple weeks ago that the most important way jehovah's witnesses are counseled to " show love " is by preaching the good news door to door.
Flipper this is yet another control article, this time using the 'self praise' method - nobody else out there knows how to show love like we JWs do.....
While I was reading the part about hurricane Katrina and the WTS response, it reminded me of an email I received from the Red Cross this week in response to a donation I gave them earlier this year after the bushfire tragedy. If you don't mind Flipper I'll copy some of it here as it shows what the Red Cross's response to a disaster is.
Dear xxxx
Your donation to the Red Cross Victorian Bushfire Appeal has helped families to farewell loved ones with dignity and survivors to find temporary shelter, and is now helping them to rebuild their homes, communities and lives.
The extraordinary response truly demonstrated the power of humanity. Red Cross raised an unprecedented $378 million that was placed into a Trust Fund.
Our immediate responseFollowing the Victorian bushfires, over 1,000 Red Cross people worked in relief centres registering more than 22,000 people affected so that worried families and friends would know they were safe. Red Cross served 200,000 meals to evacuees and emergency services workers and provided over 5,000 first aid treatments…
All funds have been, and will continue to be, directed to the people and communities affected, with no deductions for administration costs.
Bushfire survivors on the road to recovery The Advisory Panel has begun to see a shift in priority needs which means that larger community rebuilding projects can now begin. Covering every community affected by the bushfires, including those in Gippsland, your donation is helping to rebuild and re-establish towns and villages.
On behalf of the people whose lives you are helping to rebuild, thank you again for your generous support.
Yours sincerely
Robert Tickner
CEO
Australian Red Cross
The point I am making by putting this email on here is that here is The Red Cross, an organisation that is looked upon with disdain by JWs and the WTS, nine months after the bushfire tragedy are still helping people rebuild their lives using donations from everyday 'worldly' people. And this aid is being given to everyone who has been affected by the disaster and needs help, not just a select group belonging to a certain religion.
Hopscotch
it's ridiculous.
i saw this so much in my 44 years in the jehovah's witness cult.
whether it was elders, pioneers, or other people in the cult criticizing others for working too much at their employment or missing some service or meetings due to employment.
dgp here's a link to the story of the JW family who owned the tobacco farm and had to give it up or be disfellowshipped.
http://www.freeminds.org/doctrine/changes/the-tobacco-bombshell.html
Hopscotch
after all these years!!!!
she is 63 yrs old still a jw.. has shunned me for years.. she lives in montreal me in ontario... .
last week i got the urge to send her a lovely card just to tell her i love her .
wow Mouthy that is wonderful. I really hope that she doesn't cut you off again now. Surely your kindness and generosity to her even though you are a 'wicked apostate' that she has shunned for years must make her wonder. And it doesn't seem like she is getting help from her fellow JWs.
All the best
Hopscotch
ok..ive been separated for 8 months now.
want to file for divorce and just get it over with.
guy at work (he is day shift i am night shift) i have known about a year and a half has been wanting to go out.
This sounds very much like he's a stalker. You can't afford to even be friends with this guy in any way.
Hopscotch
it's ridiculous.
i saw this so much in my 44 years in the jehovah's witness cult.
whether it was elders, pioneers, or other people in the cult criticizing others for working too much at their employment or missing some service or meetings due to employment.
Flipper this is all about control in so many ways. And again it shows what a toxic parent the WTS (that claims to be 'our mother') is. A normal parent wants to see their child succeed and get ahead and is happy for them if they get a good education and go on to a good career, earning good money. But not the WTS. They like to keep their members dumbed down and doing menial jobs. It's so much easier to keep their members in line this way.
But the crazy part is the WTS then punishes their members who have followed this advice and who now find that because they only have low paying menial jobs they have to work longer and harder just to make ends meet. Out comes the guilt trips, the innuendos ("bro so & so is such a slacko, he misses meetings because of his job"), the taking away of 'priviledges' and articles such as the one you mentioned.
Another thing is, these articles are written by men who are living on handouts and have done so for decades. Not only are they totally out of touch with the realities of life, they are usually unaffected by the downturns in the economy. The ones in the writing dept (such as my brother in law) have often been in bethel for decades and are fairly 'secure' in their position. If anything they are better off financially than they were many years ago when they did actually have to work part time and pioneer before going to bethel. And because of their 'higher up' position in Bethel, they are usually sought after to give talks all over the country, each time pocketing money and other goodies from 'green handshakes'. So money and life comes fairly easily to them without much effort. How easy it is for them to sit behind their nice desk in their own little corporate office and write this kind of stuff that can have such a terrible impact on the life of a faithful member trying their hardest. Sick.
Thanks for bringing this article to our attention Flipper
Hopscotch
i just bought 6 qt.
slow cooker the other day and i would like to have some recipes.
i prefer not to have too many ingredients.
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Here's a slow cooker recipe I came up with one day. It worked and now my family love it. As I'm in Australia I'm not sure exactly what you call chicken stock over there - from reading the other recipes on this post I think it might be broth.
CHICKEN IN CREAMY WINE SAUCE
3 large carrots peeled and chopped into small chunks
1 or 2 onions " " "
3 or 4 potatoes " " "
1 cup or so of frozen peas
1 375ml (I think that's about 12 fl oz in the USA) chicken stock (maybe that's what you call broth)
6 or 8 chicken boneless chicken thighs
white wine
herbs of choice
1/2 - 2/3 cup light cream
cornflour
salt and pepper
Put carrots, onions, potatoes, peas and chicken into slow cooker. (No need to chop chicken as it breaks up during cooking). Pour in stock (broth), splash in some wine (qty up to you) then sprinkle with herbs of choice. I usually use mixed herbs. Cook 7 - 8 hours. Sometimes if I'm home while its cooking I might mix it up a couple of times and break up the chicken, but you don't have to - you can do this at the end.
When cooked, mix up cream with some cornflour (3 or 4 teaspoons or more depending on how thick you want it) and add to slow cooker. Mix in well and season to taste with salt and pepper. Allow to heat back up again after adding cream.
Serve with buttered crusty bread or rolls. We usually serve it in a bowl with a spoon.
Hopscotch
dear members about a month ago i read about an article in the watchtower november i think ....... it was titled something along the lines of "how to be a friend to jesus" the answering paragraph explained something along these lines ~ " to be a friend to jesus remain faithful to the organisation obey the faithful and descrete slave ..... and then something about the elders on more of a personal level".
could someone please post the "how to be a friend to jesus" article and confirm which watchtower it is in ?.
or if possible direct me to that particular post ........ this would be greatly apprieciated .
OK I'm pretty sure this is the one you are talking about. Here is the scan of the relevant pages.
Now I remember that disgusting comment at the end of para 18 "When we overlook the faults of the elders and joyfully follow their direction, we prove our love for Christ."
Hope this the one you were looking for exjwbenny.....
All the best with trying to get your dad out.
Hopscotch (fellow Aussie exjw)
dear members about a month ago i read about an article in the watchtower november i think ....... it was titled something along the lines of "how to be a friend to jesus" the answering paragraph explained something along these lines ~ " to be a friend to jesus remain faithful to the organisation obey the faithful and descrete slave ..... and then something about the elders on more of a personal level".
could someone please post the "how to be a friend to jesus" article and confirm which watchtower it is in ?.
or if possible direct me to that particular post ........ this would be greatly apprieciated .
I remember the article you are talking about but cannot find the thread that it was mentioned on. I will find the actual magazine and scan the pages for you.
Hopscotch
floor 3 - these men have jobs, love kids, and are extremely good looking.... .
she goes to the fourth floor and the sign reads: .
there are no men on this floor.
I thought you might be Outlaw!
But really Outlaw dont you think they should make a floor at the top for ones like you. I mean, not only do you meet all the qualifications for floor 5 - you can cook - and French at that.
Better get those running shoes on now the secrets out Outlaw
Hopscotch
