someone included danny granger in the thread about celebrity and athlete jws.
i never realized this but i looked up some news articles that confirmed he has stated he was brought up as a jw.. does anyone know if he is still an active jw, or if he was ever baptized?
anyone who lives in indiana or who follows the nba that might have some info?.
Someone included Danny Granger in the thread about celebrity and athlete JWs. I never realized this but I looked up some news articles that confirmed he has stated he was brought up as a JW.
Does anyone know if he is still an active JW, or if he was ever baptized? Anyone who lives in Indiana or who follows the NBA that might have some info?
Thanks.
SM
everyone here should read this.
here is the link:.
http://www2.canada.com/surreynow/news/viewpoint/story.html?id=c4e29752-1dca-4c67-8543-d72da8322aa7 .
That was a great article indeed. I hope lots of JWs in the Surrey area read this. A year ago this article would have made me angry, but now I can't believe I would have let my child die in the same situation because of a cult's interpretation of the bible.
It is too bad the writer made the error about the earth being 6,000 years old, as many JW's will likely use that error to discredit all of the other details.
stay awhile and check the site out.
i have learned so much that for years has been hidden.
i always knew something was wrong but could not figure it out.
Couldn't agree more. I've spent countless hours here since last summer reading up on the WTS. The two biggies for me are 607 BCE and the "Generation" change in 1995.
If a JW shows up after service to find out why I wasn't out, maybe I'll bring up one of these points and pretend I'm sincerely looking for help to restore my faith. Actually, I probably won't open the door. But I'm preparing for the day I have a talk with someone why I haven't been in service for months and only 1 or 2 meetings per month. Thankfully, the elders here are lazy.
a jw just emailed this experience to me:.
i'll bold the parts i find particularly puke-worthy.. .
shooting at us holocaust.
A JW just emailed this experience to me:
I'll bold the parts I find particularly puke-worthy.
Shooting at US Holocaust
Large Group of Jehovah's Witnesses from Mexico Touring at the Time
After attending a spiritually encouraging and upbuilding International Convention in San Diego CA a group of Delegates from Mexico found themselves in the middle of a horrible incident Tuesday while touring the US Holocaust Museum in Washington DC.
Over 100 Jehovah's Witnesses from Mexico were touring the US Holocaust when a armed gunman stormed the Holocaust museum killing a guard. Like Satan, the ruler of the world, the gunman was full of hate.
The Holocaust Museum documents the prejudice and hatred of Satan's world; that point was then driven home by the shooting and killing of a guard literally before their very eyes. Not something peace loving people should ever have to witness and soon will never have to experience again as God's kingdom takes over earth's affairs.
Soon after the incident everyone in both bus groups were back in the caring hands of their BCT Tour Guides and being comforted by their loving fellow travelers and brothers and sisters.
Upon arrival back at their hotel some Elders from the US Branch were their giving scriptural comfort and encouragement, to everyone in the group, into the late hours of the night. One family was given special attention by the Bethel Elders because as a result of their son witnessing such a traumatic event he suffered an asthmatic attack and was taken to the hospital for treatment.
The next morning, tired yet determined, everyone was back on the bus looking forward to visiting Bethel and were warmly welcomed as they arrived at the various facilities to enjoy their tours. It's the love, support, and hospitality of the Brothers that they will never forget.
As they continue their trip of the World Headquarters and US Branch of Jehovah's Witnesses in NY their hearts are being warmed by the promise from their God Jehovah found at Rev 21: 3 and 4: With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: "Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away."
The BCT Crew and Staff (especially those in NYC) expressed how, as the enemy tried to divide, scatter, scare, and confuse the group all he actually achieved was them drawing closer and closer to Jehovah and to each other.
BCT is looking forward to providing more details about this incident as time goes but for now we knew you dear friends would want to know that all the brothers and sisters, from Mexico, touring the DC Holocaust during that demon inspired incident are ALL doing fine as they rely on Jehovah their God and each other.
i thought it would be fun to think of a co i've had in the past and see if anyone else has any observations.. so... henry goriup.
has he / is he serving your congregation and if so, what do you think of him?.
sm.
I thought it would be fun to think of a CO I've had in the past and see if anyone else has any observations.
So... Henry Goriup. Has he / is he serving your congregation and if so, what do you think of him?
SM
the following quote is taken from the article is it wrong to change your religion?
in the july 2009 awake p29:
no one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family.
Wow, that is unbelievable. I have so much pent up rage against the WTS right now I can't believe it. I can't believe I never used to see the hypocrisy and double-speak in their literature.
To those who are currently being shunned by family and friends - please continue to use this article to show the hypocrisy of the WTS! My immediate family still think I believe but when the time comes I hope to use this article.
Hobo Ken - that was a great letter! Let us know if you get a reply.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l8uvv3gytw.
He uses a couple of JW buzz words, but he sure doesn't sound like he's been exposed to the JW religion.
At best, he may have studied for a bit and gone to one or two meetings. Even then the info they asked for doesn't make sense. He should have known the people who came to his door, so he could have asked them.
startfragment.
for what's is worth (since this topic comes up frequently) here are, in simple terms, the primary teachings the society has used to define the "generation".
1897 a group of contemporary people.
OnTheWayOut,
I thoroughly enjoyed your WatchTower paragraph adjusting our understanding of the generation. If a member of the Writing Committe is lurking on here, he might just copy that to a personal file for use in a future issue.
The WTS has already hinted at 2034 as being significant as it is 120 years from 1914. I beleve it was in an '03 WT, the same one that Ray Franz highlighted in CoC.
SM
i saw one up close and personal because the jw annointed sister who was studying with me, told me that if i looked up every scripture in her (illegally gotten before the school started) pioneer school book and cut it out of old green nwts and pasted them in the margins, it would make her a stronger pioneer and jehovah would reward me.
and in the process i would learn where things were in the bible.. gosh what an incredible honor i was blessed with!
you know i did it..i didnt know a damn thing.
winstonchurchill:
I agree that it's cool to have an ex-CO here. Are you still serving as an elder? Can you relate your story, or have you already and I missed it?
i saw one up close and personal because the jw annointed sister who was studying with me, told me that if i looked up every scripture in her (illegally gotten before the school started) pioneer school book and cut it out of old green nwts and pasted them in the margins, it would make her a stronger pioneer and jehovah would reward me.
and in the process i would learn where things were in the bible.. gosh what an incredible honor i was blessed with!
you know i did it..i didnt know a damn thing.
I can confirm that they let you keep it. I've thrown out a lot of stuff, but I still have the pioneer book because it makes me feel "elite."
When I flip through it, I can't believe how many notes I've written in the margins referring to "life-saving work". I must have thought I was pretty important.
