Posts by villabolo

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Left the WT but why the loss of your faith in God?

by Luo bou to in

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sure the wt deceived you with its claim to be god's channel but why for so many is there a subsequent loss of faith in god ?

it puzzles me and makes me wonder why they were jw's in the first place..

villabolo

My curiosity got me in and my curiosity and integrity got me out of both the JWs and the belief in the Bible god. If we are going to investigate other religions like the bitchtower tells us to then why, if we are not hypocrites, stop there. I noticed, very early on in my association with JWs, that they were performing a puppet act with Jehovah making him say whatever it is they wished. Yet that mentality is not limited to the JWs. All believers project themselves into "God" eventually making him into their image or the image of something they would like to exist.

This delusion would be tolerable if it weren't for the fact that this "one and only true God" is in the habit of damning those who either "misinterpret" him or in all honesty say that they don't see him at all.

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Terminating a Study

by cameo-d in

who decides when to terminate a study?.

does the decision come from "higher up"?.

is field servant required to discuss "progress" of study with a determining committee?.

villabolo

I had inherited this study from a brother who was moving out of state and it had been going on for about a year. It was a simple decision from one of the elders that I terminate the study. No fanfare or in depth discussion were involved.

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Do you think if the WTS were to start up today would it flourish to the extent of what it has become worldwide ?

by Homerovah the Almighty in

here's a hypothetical question that worth some thought and contemplation.. if a small group of men or maybe even one man were to start the wts just the way russell did some 100 years ago.

would it grow and flourish just like the real one has done ?.

if the wts were to use all of their doctrines that they have acquired or established such as.

villabolo

Not with the old dates but maybe with some new date taken out of their chronological sleeves. The desire for apocalyptic religion is there and it is strong. It only takes some imagination for the doom-monger to fulfill it and get a crowd gathered around himself..

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A SURVEY: YOUR RELIGION AND POLITICS

by villabolo in

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i was interested in knowing what your beliefs are after leaving the jws.. in a few lines please tell what your religious/spiritual beliefs are (or lack thereof) and what your political/philosophical beliefs are..

villabolo

I was interested in knowing what your beliefs are after leaving the JWs.

In a few lines please tell what your religious/spiritual beliefs are (or lack thereof) and what your political/philosophical beliefs are.

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interesting thread on facebook JW page...What to say in field service....

by oompa in

as in "what do you tell householders as to how close we are in time?

"........it has over a hundred posts on it, lots of kinda mean anti-dubs on it, but one real nice passionate dub who is so sincere and ya, he so loves his life and the brotherhood....his posts are long and he really seems nice, you can tell the other dubs love him.

my thought is that since there is absoulutely no time link (such as a lifespan generation) how do dubs stress the "urgency" to learn and come into "the truth".......i used to do that in service, and stress to people how the time was short because the gen of 1914 was getting so old....some of the dubs on facebook have repeatedy mentioned how many millions are still alive from 1914 as if that even matters anymore....they were quickly informed that duh.....so what....wt has totally bailed on that teaching.......i feel these "last days" could just as easily bet 1000 years away even if the bible was true.......i can find zero scriptural support for wt to teach that is very, very near (they have only used the double very once!

villabolo

I don't know about saying it in field service since the whole chronology is too tangled up to explain to anyone including the JWs. I can however suggest some new light to extend 1914's terminal point. Go to Genesis 6:3 where pre flood mankind is given 120 years before their destruction and make a type/antitype paralel with 1914. That should give the Faithless and Indiscreet Masters till 2034 to figure something out.

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Thought y'all might enjoy this one...

by under_believer in

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hey all, just got this email from one of the jw mailing lists i still seem to be subscribed to.... .

> these are pictures that have just been painted on the various walls of.

> our lovely assembly hall in plant city , florida .

villabolo

"Okay this one got me, the picture with the little girl with her two front teeth missing. Well if we are going to live in a paradise world in perfection would a child have to loose their teeth ?"

"The missing teeth? A passion smile maybe. Maybe pedophilia won't be a sin in the new order."

Those are milk teeth you dummies and pervs!

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How long does reinstatement take?!? Question for a elder or someone thats been in this situation

by N-kiki in

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villabolo

"I did not know right away that this board was apostate when I joined"

Isn't it funny how we use that word "apostate" in reference to ourselves when the JWs are the ones who could be considered apostates?!

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How long does reinstatement take?!? Question for a elder or someone thats been in this situation

by N-kiki in

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villabolo

I think she is also at her limit for posts and cannot respond further.

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Does a Cult Background Assist Atheists?

by Perry in

the march 2009 american religious identification survey from trinity college and the march 7, 2009, national journal article on "rise of the godless" present the following data: .

when asked for their religious affiliation, 15 percent of americans say none, but only 0.7 percent say atheist ..... .

i present the above info just as a reminder that very, very few people consider themselves atheist despite decades of "scientific" propaganda suggesting otherwise.

villabolo

Perry, the figures you cite are for the USA. I have seen figures for the rest of the world that cites very high rates of atheism in Europe and even Israel (25%!). Your figure of .7% seems somewhat low even for the USA.

You also interject Creationism which has no relevance to your primary question since there is such a thing as Theistic Evolution and Deism.

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Thought y'all might enjoy this one...

by under_believer in

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hey all, just got this email from one of the jw mailing lists i still seem to be subscribed to.... .

> these are pictures that have just been painted on the various walls of.

> our lovely assembly hall in plant city , florida .

villabolo

I could almost imagine the first one or two of the paintings as having been realistic in our evolutionary past but then we enter the twilight zone.

I snickered when I saw a girl riding an ostrich. First, an ostrich might find that weight burdensome. Second, why did God give the ostrich diminished wings that are incapable of flight?