Blondie,
Your 'WT Comments' posts are always a highlight for me, and I am absolutely glad you posted last week's - It was missed, dearly!.
Hope you're feeling better, and thank you *so much* for these posts.
-Trebor
comments you will not hear at the 09-06-09 wt study (july 15, 2009, pages 3-7)(treasures jesus).
review comments will be in red or headed by comments.
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Blondie,
Your 'WT Comments' posts are always a highlight for me, and I am absolutely glad you posted last week's - It was missed, dearly!.
Hope you're feeling better, and thank you *so much* for these posts.
-Trebor
we rarely go.
but, we went because hubby wanted to tell the elders we are switching halls.. at first, i thought to myself that i would go out back with her when she gets fussy.
but, my baby doesn't really get fussy a lot so i just took her out back and played with her as she laughed hysterically.
That was the attitude and counsel the entire time I was in...from the 60s through the late 90s...
Please allow me to add that same attitude and "counsel" was in place in the halls I attended (I left the Watchtower Society controlled organization in mid 2008).
The requirements and expectations placed on children and ther parents is both fustrating and unrealistic.
But this is the Watchtower Society were are talking about...No big surprise there.
-Trebor
jwoods is sixty years old this morning.. btw, the actual name is james.
james woods.
my old logon would not work, so i had to make another..
Happy 60th, James!
mary is going through a very difficult time.
i am asking you all to "do your thing" for her.
her brother is suffering greatly in hospital..so please do as i am begging you to do.
Wishing all the best to come your way, Mary.
Take care,
trebor
her son, jesse, is in serious condition.. my son is in surgery and may lose his hand and arm.. jesse got an infection in a cut on his finger.
his finger and hand swelled to the size of an arm .. .
they have to do surgery on his hand and arm.
I have just read through this thread. FHN, I wish your son a safe and healthy recovery, and may you and your family find strength and support during this difficult time.
-trebor
my mom is pretty cool.
81 years old and still going fairly strong.
my older sister was the first one to leave the dubs in our 3rd gen jw family.
Well over a year ago my mother along with my siblings told me never to contact them in any manner unless I came back to the organization. Nonetheless, my mother is excellent at being a mom to young children.
Once her children become preteens and older (Especially adults), she does not know how to cope and adjust. Regardless, I still love and try my utmost to respect her. However, she tried literally to choke my brother-in-law after he told her to stay out of their business (Meaning him and his fiancee - My sister). She also believes to this day my father should have literally thrown my brother-in-law down a flight of stairs because of it. She has verbally and emotionally attacked my wife prior to our marriage and during. For the most part she treated me well, except when it came to relationships/friendships of mine outside of the family. She has too much of a controlling and manipulating nature which is done in a passive aggressive way. I blame that on her past and of course the example set by both the actions and teachings coming from the Watchtower Society. Decades of their indoctrination is more than ample to screw people up further by burying their problems on the notion that everything is "temporary" along with other notions and philosophies I have heard her lean upon thanks to the ideas put forward in the Society's publications.
She came from an abusive household in which both of her parents were alcoholics. Her oldest living brother basically took care of the family and essentially had in her mind that should be my role as well. My father sadly also came from an abusive household in which his father also left the family when my father was 8 or 9 years old.
They both were in their teens when they married and I was born when my mother was still a teenager and my father was in his early twenties. The religion is essentially my mother's whole life. There were a few times I recall when she started having doubts, but unfortunately I was still under the cult control of the Watchtower and convinced her to wait on Jehovah the organization.
Not surprisingly, they were ideal candidates for this cult. An ideal scenario for joining cults is those in their mid teens to mid twenties and has emotional baggage/problems from broken homes or an abusive past. My father is/was still talking to me (somewhat), but it has been awhile since we last spoke. I think he is between a rock and a hard place with this scenario and deep down knows Jehovah's Witnesses aren't "the truth", but also understands how deeply entrenched my mother is and all the ties they both have to it being a part of it for so many decades. There was much cognitive dissonance in the discussions on his part when we had both face to face conversations and on the phone.
Anyhow, sorry for going off on a tangent; Getting back on track...I would like to call my mother, but she already made her stance clear (And actually emphasized it not to long ago). I still have hope for all my family will break free of this cult-like organization. If not, I wish them happiness and hope they lead relatively healthy lives (Which I know is near impossible with the directions from the Watchtower Society).
-trebor
http://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com.
http://www.jwsupportforum.com/index.php.
http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/.
Great job as usual, Blondie!
hamsterbait, here's the quote and citation you mean:
Our coming to know "the truth" - the entire body of Christian teachings that has become part of the Bible - and adhering to it are essential for our salvation. - Watchtower December 15 2008, pg 28. (emphasis added)
-Trebor
turns out, he really doesn't seem to like anything spiritual.
he hasn't been to a meeting in weeks.
we went out with a bunch of jws the other night and at the end he told me he was pissed they brought spiritual things up.
Great to have you back, cognac...
And that's wonderful news about your hubby!
-trebor
survivors network of those abused by priests dear snap members and supporters:.
we are being asked to help survivors in new york state who are working with lawmakers to change the law there to both protect children and to help survivors heal.. .
you don't need to live in new york state to help.
Signed. Thanks Blondie for bringing this to our attention.
-trebor
my mother has been burning to write a letter to old friends among the witnesses.
we move around so much and were never great at keeping in touch.
no one knows we've left the b0rg, but we don't care who finds out.
I disagree with both Steve and Reniaa. I performed a similar action and put together all the details along with logic reasoning and presented it to my wife. She was able to break free of the Watchtower Society's hold.
My wife and I then sent similar information to the rest of our 'immediate' family (Parents, siblings). Thankfully, my wife's parents were able to also break free of the Society, sadly my parents and siblings have not (yet)...But there's always hope.
You never know who you may reach. Even if your letter helps just one person, it is well worth it. Your letter may be just what they need to wake them up from the ways of the Society. I am living proof that sending such information does work. While it may not work for many, even if it works for a few or even just one person, think of all the good you have accomplished.
Additionally, it may not provide immediate results but may help in the accumulation of information or perhaps even the start of collecting information and reasoning for those people, assisting them to think outside of the Watchtower Society's teachings and interpretations.
-Trebor