The WTS has ruined and divided so many families. Coming to this forum and letting it out is very helpful. I'm sure you'll be an outstanding father. Letting it out is always helpful. Remembering you are not alone and we all understand and are there for you is also very healing. Hugs.
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33A deep deep hurt
by sooner7nc inwhen i was a couple of months old my father was put into prison in seagoville, texas.
the watchtower took him away from me for almost 2 years and destroyed almost all hope that he and i would ever have a normal relationship.
i say this because i believe the bond that we should have formed when i was a baby was severed forever and that's the damnable shame of it all.
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Update on Ali, my daughter
by coffee_black inali is home and undergoing further treatment for congestive heart failure.
she has a bi-ventricular pacemaker and a defibrilator (sp?
) they believe the heart failure was caused by a virus that damaged the heart muscle.
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coffeeblack, I am very sorry about all that has happened to you and yours. I am glad your daughter is recovering and I wish you both the best.
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Will jws be at your and your neighbor's doorstep this Saturday?
by blondie ini would think that a portion of the non-jw population might be at church.
i don't think there are any football games that day.
what would you say or recommend to your non-jw neighbors?.
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I talked to my Mom yesterday and asked her what she was doing on Saturday? She sounded confused because she had just got done dissing Xmas. I had told her we were getting together with the DHs family, etc.
"Oh, you know how people are, they all get together, eat, drink and fight. Oh, and exchange those stupid gifts."
Umm, what day is that I asked?
"I have no idea" She said.
I asked if she were going out in FS Saturday.
"Yes, of course." She said.
I told her she better get ready for lots of angry, hung over Worldly people telling her to get lost.
I told her Xmas was Saturday.
"Oh!??, Well, I'll just get together with the people from the congregation and we'll hang out then." She said.
WTF? I told her to enjoy herself. Especially since she wasn't celebrating or anything. She missed the point of the hypocrisy of them getting together on Xmas.
I did send her a "Season's Greetings" card for the first time this year. I will wait for the fall out.
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Do You Believe Your Government or Political Party Affiliation Is Righteous?
by minimus ini know some that tout their government as being blameless, wonderful, and almost perfect.
whether you are considered a "liberal" or "conservative", it seems that some are "true believers" in their cause.. personally, i'm disillusioned with politics although i'm always interested and fascinated by ideology and personalities.. i think all governments are unrighteous.
i think some individuals mean well but the higher in government that you are, the more soiled you become..
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Someday you'll be a Libertarian BB. It will like leaving the WTS.
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Has anyone noticed that they are really pushing that Satan is after us and how much the world hates us.
by life is to short init seems like the january 15th wt and the march 15 wt are about satan attacking us.
maybe it is because i am seeing things more clearly or maybe they are truly using it more.
they are really getting into the fact that the world hates us a quote from the jan 15th wt on page 30 says "the world is basically hostile toward us.
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I hear this so often from my JW relatives, I want to puke.
I got the chain e-mail about the Russian KH being torched and was told that JWs are being persecuted worldwide! I was further told that this has been going on for years--at least since WW II. I was told how my aunts were picked on for not saluting the flag (?? was this done in the early 40's ) , not celebrating B-days, etc. Odd that they would consider that "persecution" and that Satan was singling them out.
I e-mailed back that, indeed, I understood, having gone through similar things as a young child. Oh, they responded and were seemingly horrified to have heard this for the first time. (Uh, no, they told us to stand up for Jehovah, continually when we told them as kids. Short memories.)
I hear all the time that "This System" is almost over and Satan is behind every mishap that befalls someone. I have put the phone on mute a few times and screamed. Literally. I am told to pray to Jehovah for the strength to get through the day. WTF good had that ever done? Especially when I am shovelling my driveway. Honestly, they are nuts. Totally nuts.
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Do You Believe Your Government or Political Party Affiliation Is Righteous?
by minimus ini know some that tout their government as being blameless, wonderful, and almost perfect.
whether you are considered a "liberal" or "conservative", it seems that some are "true believers" in their cause.. personally, i'm disillusioned with politics although i'm always interested and fascinated by ideology and personalities.. i think all governments are unrighteous.
i think some individuals mean well but the higher in government that you are, the more soiled you become..
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GrandMaJones said: "No, the government and/or political party can't be rightous, but they can be well intentioned. They can even be well intentioned and wrong. It's an opinion. You have a basic outlook, that in principle, you agree with. At best, that's all it can be, I think."
Substitute "Governing Body" :
"No, the government and/or political party Governing Body can't be rightous, but they can be well intentioned. They can even be well intentioned and wrong. It's an opinion. You have a basic outlook, that in principle, you agree with. At best, that's all it can be, I think."
People leaving a Cult seem to need someone to tell them how to think. Especially seems so with Progressive Liberals. They want and seem to need someone, anyone, to tell them "It's allright. It's OK. We're here for you. We will take care of you. All you have to do is put your trust in US. That is the U.S. Government. We'll tell you how to eat. What sausage to cook. What toy to play with. What seat belt to wear. What vitamin levels are OK."
See how that works? Progressively more and more Government intrusion and they just suck it up. They ask for more Big Government. Because, just like the Governing Body telling us we couldn't wear skirts or have oral sex, the U.S. Government really does know how to live our lives better than we do. Don't they?
Just like they begged for the New System to come and wipe out humanity. All so they could pet a Lion and be perfect. In the New System.
Change is Good.
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Baby Girl Graduating From Uni ...
by snowbird in... summa cum laude, this here saturday.
she was #2 in her high school graduating class of 750 in 2007.. so proud!
syl.
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Congrats to her! Great accomplishment.
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I'm upset
by littlebird inmy father in law passed away today.
he was not a witness, but as he got to be more and more house bound, he would attend sunday meetings with my husband or my brother in law.
tomorrow, a "brother" is buying the family dinner, im not welcome.
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Very sorry about your loss littlebird and the way you are being treated.
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What oh what ... is the point of a blog???
by highdose insomething i've never understood.
could someone please explain this to me and finaly answer this nagging question?.
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What is the point of Twitter?
"What I did today in 140 characters or less".
Pointless, unless you are a narcissist.
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As a woman in the truth what went through your head when you realized that us sister had to cover our heads?
by life is to short inok i was raised in the "truth" but no one ever studied with me.
my parents were abusive and i got nothing from them or anyone in the "truth" no bible study any attention nothing from anyone.. i read the great teacher book to myself at the age of seven, and when i was in my mid teens i started studying on my own with no help from anyone nor any answers my questions expect to be rebuked if i asked the wrong question so i quit asking it was god's chosen religion after all who was i to question anything.
i conducted the sort of study and this elder looked at me and said where is your head covering.
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When my mom put a napkin (paper, very cheap from the grocery store) on her head because a young boy was in the room and she was leading the prayer, I knew this was totally f-cked up. Totally. I was about 9 at the time. I giggled and got a dirty glare. Then a slap in the car for not showing respect to that young boy.
When I went to college and learned about Muslims and learned that they kept women down the same way, I never looked back and never went back. I was out. I tried to explain to my mom that JWs were very similar to the Muslims that way--she would scream at me to STFU. Hopeless.