Posts by VIII

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Need reference for withholding the truth from "those who don't deserve it"

by Pistoff in

hey all, i know that the references for 'theocratic warfare' are ancient and not considered useful.. i would like a reference to the wt saying that one does not have to give truth to those who are not worthy or something similar.. help!.

this information is for a court case.

VIII

Wow, this is a priceless piece of information and really sheds some light on some things that have been happening lately.

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28 years young today (I was born Feb 16 1983) HBD to me.

by Joliette in

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even if i dont really celebrate it like...i'm suppose to be going out for karokee tonight with a friend, then doing something with another friend on the 26th.

two more years and i'll be the big 3-0. man, how time passes.

just some years ago, i was just a breast fed child running wild!.

VIII

Happy Birthday!!

Aren't you glad you're out of the JWs and can lick the frosting on the cake?

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Why I Eventually Left

by itscrap&theyknowit! in

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i am new to this but, for years, i was already out.

don't know where to start.

as i have read the many posting, i'm not alone in my feelings.

VIII

Welcome!

So sorry for what you and most JW women go through. Please stay here and get more off your chest. It feels good.

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A Beloved and Compassionate Elder Trapped in a Cult Just Died , What should I do?

by TastingFreedom in

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i just heard the sad news that a very loving and kind elder for the congregation that i belonged to for 15 years just died from a heart attack.

he was someone that i had great admiration and deep respect for, even now that i'm out from the jws.

he was my mentor and an inspiration to me as an elder, and in many ways he showed me the contradictions of the wts, he was a breath of fresh air within a cult.

VIII

Your descriptions of your friend and the funeral were incredible. You showed tremendous strength in going. Entering the KH like that was brave!

Being in there listening to this boring talk got me a headache, very sleepy and dumbed down.
It's almost like people are being hypnotized, perfect conditions for indoctrination and programming the mind with cult propaganda. The people look like drones, no emotions, it was really strange in a sick way.

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How Dare The Organization!!!

by minimus in

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how dare these people!.

they pretty much force you to pioneer, not pursue a good education, become a "servant" to their whims!.

they don't want you accepting overtime at work because stupid meetings and door knocking is more important.. they accept pedophiles in their midst more than they accept anyone that questions their authority!.

VIII

Because it's a C-U-L-T.

High Control Group.

Take your pick.

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Finally all the proof you'll ever need that Jesus was black !!!!

by caliber in

there were 3 good arguments that jesus was black .

1. he called everyone "brother" .

2. he liked gospel .

VIII

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Insulting Terms used by the WashTowel

by punkofnice in

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loading the language is a propogandist tactic to trigger a reaction in the mind.

a prime example is the word 'apostate'!.

i have been called 'spiritually weak' for quitting field service, meetings etc.. how would you respond (without swearing or giving a punch up the hooter), if you were called this?.

VIII

"Kindly"

How often do you use that term? I'm guessing, on a average day, never.

Yet, my JW mother, uses it every damn time I talk to her. She uses the term like a regular person would use "politely" or "nice". Very annoying.

"I just did it to treat So and So KINDLY." That word is pure Watchtower speak. Treat them *kindly* and they will come. Come to what?

I. Hate. That. Word.

Oh, just thought of another:

Gluttony. Again, who uses that word? JWs, that's who.

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Being honest with yourself, could you have reasonably adjusted your attitude and continued on as a JW?

by miseryloveselders in

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i ask this question in harmony with deedub's swan song thread which i linked below.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/205902/1/time-to-say-good-bye.

to some degree, i think i understand where she's coming from.

just speaking from my own experiences since stepping into the world of anonymous apostacy, i went through a few different phases of personal outlooks.

VIII

Being raised in this religion, I know how imperfect people can treat one another all the while having a phony smile and declaring their love for Jehovah. But just because we've experienced wrong from the likes of those people, does that mean we give into to them and take all our marbles and go home? Are we possibly being childish or unreasonable by judging the entire organization based off of the actions of a few? There's more I didn't mention such as blood, and shunning...

They are phony. They have done us wrong.

We are not childish or unreasonable by judging the entire b0rg.

Because it's a C-U-L-T.

I'm dealing with a sister who is dying--she'll be dead within months. She's a DFd JW. She's an avowed Atheist. Loudly Atheist. Our mom asked me to pray to Jehovah that he and his angels watch over her. Huh? She's DFd and an Atheist. Mom knows this. Sis has not been reticent about her views.

Mom also said she told her congregation (different than the one that DFd sis) and they all are praying for her also. WTF?! I asked my mom what would happen if sis and/or I walked in that congregation tomorrow?

Uh, well....

Yeah, I know, they would SHUN us. Period. No question. And, if they knew they were being asked to pray for a DFd person, they wouldn't, would they? No, she admitted, they wouldn't.

She also said if my sis needed a blood transfusion she shouldn't get one, however, since she was DFd it didn't matter, so, she could.

I am so sick of the JWs and how they have fucked up my family. Every aspect and corner of my family life has been torched by them. Every corner. And yes, I mean torched, like by an extreme fire.

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Could Teaching Critical Thinking Abilities, End Cult Mind-Conrol Forever?

by lifelong humanist in

in my mind, every child that undergoes an education system, whether it be a within the family, a basic pre-school kindergarten type structure, within a monitored school curriculum environment itself, or, as part of a further education programme, the emphasis should be on teaching people how to think critically, and for the common good of all.. if this was indeed the case, probably very few would succumb to mind-control techniques later on in life.

cults would struggle to dupe and recruit new members.

the cult leaders themselves, would derive little benefit from their evil mind games.

VIII

As an added note to this:

My sister is dying--she will be going into a hospice soon. She is an affirmed atheist (DFd JW). Suddenly, after being told people are praying for her, JWs and Christians in general, she is saying "thank you" and saying maybe there is a God.

That is how critical thinking works. It goes out the window when emotions and other things happen.

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Could Teaching Critical Thinking Abilities, End Cult Mind-Conrol Forever?

by lifelong humanist in

in my mind, every child that undergoes an education system, whether it be a within the family, a basic pre-school kindergarten type structure, within a monitored school curriculum environment itself, or, as part of a further education programme, the emphasis should be on teaching people how to think critically, and for the common good of all.. if this was indeed the case, probably very few would succumb to mind-control techniques later on in life.

cults would struggle to dupe and recruit new members.

the cult leaders themselves, would derive little benefit from their evil mind games.

VIII

Even with critical thinking etc., people would still get caught up in cults and other groups like that. As PSac noted, critical thinking only gets you so far. There are emotions, psychology, past experiences, and on and on that influence human behavior.

Why are there educated JWs and Scientologists?