Yes.
But I won't tell them. Yet. Too revealing.
Yes.
But I won't tell them. Yet. Too revealing.
i followed my instincts that the changes my 14 year old son is going through ran deeper than teenaged angst and i made an appointment for him to see a counselor through the county so he could talk to someone.
it took two months to get it.
we went yesterday, he and i. i spoke for a little about our life now, including the separation, the house, the jws, the shunning, my husbands alcoholism and his treatment of the kids, my husbands familial bipolar and depression and adhd...and then she spoke to my son separately.
I am so sorry and hope you and he are OK!
*I* smoked pot while younger. Having just watched my relative die, very quickly, from lung cancer, I have zero temptation now.
She died 4 weeks after being diagnosed. Yet, her tumors had to be growing for months. Either way, watching anyone smoke, any thing now, all I feel is ill. It makes me sick to think what they are doing to their lungs.
She was smothered to death by a tumor. It was horrific. I watched her die. I have never seen someone die. It was just sickening.
Anyone who wants to smoke, anything, should go sit with lung cancer patients who are in the final stages.
My Camaro SS is on order, thank god. At least I'll have some power when they mandate that all cars have 100 hp and 3 wheels.
if yes, how did you choose it?.
if no, why?.
albert.
No.
They are all a bunch of schiesters. Just on sliding scales.
back in the 70's jw smokers where given 6 to 12 months to quit... i remember one witness in particular that had come up to missouri from arkansas to try and make a living for him and his wife and daughter.
(all jw"s).
well they had previously tried to earn a living in arkansas by picking cotton and doing other farm labors.
Small cell lung cancer. Very aggressive small cell lung cancer.
It has spread to the liver, via the lymph nodes. Diagnosed 2 weeks and 3 days ago. Expected to live approximately 2-3 more weeks. Not months or years. Weeks.
She started smoking when she was 15; she turned 75 in January and never stopped. She has been smoking 2 packs per day. She encouraged her children to smoke. She derided anyone who didn't smoke. Actually made fun of non-smokers.
Now, as I look at her laying in her hospice bed, all I see is the wasted years. She would refuse to come visit because we wouldn't allow her to smoke in our home. She refused numerous invites to numerous parties because the host/hostess didn't smoke and wouldn't allow smoking.
She can't breathe because the huge, cancerous tumor is growing and cutting off her breathing. She is slowly being smothered.
Watchtower policy? F'd up. My father was DFd for smoking. He never returned. I am sure he smoked on purpose just to get DFd. (long story)
I asked my Mom if Jesus would actually approve of someone being shunned for SMOKING?!
She agreed that no, it was a stupid policy. No one should be expelled when they have an addiction to anything. They need help, not cutting off from their support system.
If you smoke, please stop. Watching someone go through what I have just in the last two weeks has been absolutely hideous. I hope you die of a heart attack rather than lung cancer. Seriously. At least she is dying quickly.
i wish i had been prepared... i would have invited her in for coffee... forgot to bring coc to the door with me....
I got mine verbally and by e-mail:
"The Memorial of Christ's death will be held after sundown April 9,
2009. If you and XYZ wish to
attend, please contact your local congregation for time and address. I
feel you will find it very comforting
in view of what you are going through. You guys need all the
encouragement you can get and all the
support you can get too. May Jehovah bless you with wisdom, comfort and
peace as you face this trial!
You are not alone."
Support? Encouragement?
What type of support and encouragement will I get at the KH? Oh, I know, Resurrection!!! Yea!! Resurrection. And Paradise. I almost forgot. Paradise. Yea.
Gag.
has anyone felt uncomfortable telling others that they were once jws?
i have shared this info with very few people in the 19 years since i left.
i don't want to have to explain to someone who wouldn't understand anyway.
I used to have no problem telling people I was a JW; born and raised as one.
Now? No. I would only tell someone if they brought the subject up and I felt I could trust them.
Why? Because so many people look at religion negatively now. And, no matter that you were brought up in it and left while still young, the Dubs are looked at like Mormons-oddly. People know them as the people who come to the door on Saturday and bother them. Also as the ones who don't celebrate holidays.
Plus, if you say something negative about them, you are bound to find out that the person you are telling knows a JW and that JW is "Very nice. I am surprised by what you are saying."
I found that out the hard way. It was the person's sister who became a Dub.
Now, I bite my lip.
i have been dealing with a terminally ill relative the last few weeks which is why i have not been on here.
she is a dedicated catholic.
which my mom knows.
LOL at Gary's response!
The attempt to recruit someone on deaths door is pretty disgusting.
i have been dealing with a terminally ill relative the last few weeks which is why i have not been on here.
she is a dedicated catholic.
which my mom knows.
I have been dealing with a terminally ill relative the last few weeks which is why I have not been on here. She is a dedicated Catholic. Which my Mom knows. Very well. This old lady has been diagnosed with cancer, stage 4 and has been given maybe 3 months to live. This is out of the blue. Literally.
Upon telling my Mom, she expressed some sadness, yet, her main concern was getting me to tell the ill, dying individual that she will be resurrected. Also, I was to tell the rest of the family (all Catholic and have rejected the JWs) that they will see their Mother in Paradise!!!! This is to "comfort" them. (Which also implies that they are going to make it through Armageddon. In spite of the JW rejection)
WTF??!!
First of all, the lady who is dying is Catholic and has said flat out the JWs are nuts. Totally nuts. Secondly, she is one of the meanest, most cold hearted people I have ever known. If there is a hell, she will be there. Of that I feel sure.
So, to tell someone, to "comfort" them, that they will be reurrected and Jehovah has a grand plan for them, is totally crazy. My Mom wanted me to get this gal on the phone so she could tell her since I wouldn't.
I flat out told her that she would sound crazy that since the Catholics have already made it clear that they are not interested in the JW message, trying now, when they are dealing with an imminent death, is not the time to tell them that Jehovah has a plan for them and it includes resurrection and Paradise. She agreed reluctantly to not say anything.
Anyone else ever deal with this? Is this as off the wall as I think it is? None of my other JW relatives have said this.
Every time the phone rings I cringe expecting it to be my Mom with another JW message for me to deliver.