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  It's nice to see the WTS is lightening up...

  by peacedog in

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  when i was attending, an elder would never give tacit approval to a jw's participation on a website like this.

  back then procedure was a harsh warning followed by disfellowshipping if the behavior were to continue.. when i was being raised a jw, no witness in good standing, let alone a pioneer, would ever consider allowing his/her children to attend a halloween or birthday party.

  seems as though the days of "mental regulating of youth" are in the rear view mirror.... how great is that?

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  VIII

  In the US, a true, strong JW would never step foot in a church. No matter it be for a funeral, where a Priest or Pastor etc., will give a Mass for the deceased or a marriage. I recently attended a funeral at a Catholic church for a deceased and a full mass was held. Neither my Mom nor any of my JW relatives attended.

  Why? Because the Priest gave a full on Mass. With Eucharist. I am sure you know what that is.

  So, go, have fun at funerals. Which I totally don't believe.

  Why Marriages are off limits is beyond comprehension. Only a brain dead JW could come up with that one. Zero on the logic scale.

  Run Forrest, Run!!!
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  It's nice to see the WTS is lightening up...

  by peacedog in

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  2. beliefs

  when i was attending, an elder would never give tacit approval to a jw's participation on a website like this.

  back then procedure was a harsh warning followed by disfellowshipping if the behavior were to continue.. when i was being raised a jw, no witness in good standing, let alone a pioneer, would ever consider allowing his/her children to attend a halloween or birthday party.

  seems as though the days of "mental regulating of youth" are in the rear view mirror.... how great is that?

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  Sheesh, next thing you know angel eyes will tell us that she will let her kids go (or she does) to funerals in churchs of other faiths. Or marriages of non-JW family members in their churchs!! Jah Forbid!!

  Fun Forrest Fun!!!
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  The Secret to Not Hating Your Job...

  by daniel-p in

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  ... what is it?.

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  VIII

  Here's an article from US News and World Report, How to Survive When You Hate Your Job:

  http://www.usnews.com/money/careers/articles/2009/07/08/how-to-survive-when-you-hate-your-job.html

  You've probably already read it, but, it might help.

  Also, here is another article:

  http://www.careerknowhow.com/guidance/hateyourjob.htm

  If nothing else, they will give you something to read and think about for a few minutes.

  Sorry for your situation. There are a lot of canned answers. Without knowing more of your situation, other than you hate it, it is hard to give advice.
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  Did any of you ever feel so sad a depressed in field service

  by life is to short in

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  i used to go out in service and i always felt not wanted.

  i would meet for service and if they could they would send me home, no one wanted me with them in their car groups.

  and yes i did shower before going.

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  VIII

  Hi and welcome to the board!

  While life is too short, you still have much to look forward to and as you start to see daylight leaving the cult that is the Watchtower, you'll start feeling better and better.

  I hated going out in FS. Hated it. I think a lot (most) of us on this board didn't like FS. Once you are out of the cult you realize you were an unpaid door-to-door salesperson for a publishing corporation. And, one that very rarely got to get the literature into the homeowners hands. (if you're honest-- )

  I have had lots of talks with my Mom who is still a die-hard JW about all the abusive practices of the JWs. She explains it exactly as your husband does--"There are always bad people in every organization....blah, blah, blah."

  One of the most helpful books for me has been by Steven Hassan, "Combatting Cult Mind Control"--it is very good and many on this board have read it. You may want to read it. It has been very good explaining the JWs and how they really are a cult.

  You may have to keep it away from your husband for now.

  Good luck on your exit!
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  Watchtower says Millions Living in 1997 “Will Never Die”

  by LUKEWARM in

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  "in the early 1920's, a featured public talk presented by jehovah's witnesses was entitled 'millions now living will never die.

  ' this may have reflected over-optimism at that time.

  but today that statement can be made with full confidence.

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  How many attended the Memorial this year? How many partook of the Emblems™ (gagging as I type that)?

  13 years ago "The Memorial report for 1996 shows that 12,921,933 attended, of whom only 8,757 (.068 percent) indicated their heavenly hope by partaking of the emblems."

  Wasn't it more this year? Partakers that is?

  How can the Annointed possibly stay steady or go up? And how can the Society explain it? Why doesn't the R&F question it?
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  Let the children decide.

  by angel eyes in

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  ok, im putting my neck on the line here but ive always believed that children should be raised to make their own choice, if to serve jah or not.. i wasnt ever forced to believe in anything, any religion etc, although my background is very complicated.. anyway, hubby and i have always thought that how can a child decide if they dont know what other things are, ie birthday partys, halloween etc.

  so, our children are allowed to choose if to go places etc.

  last year our little boy said he didnt want to go to a halloween party, this year he said he might.

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  Run Forrest, Run!!

  Yes, I was raised as a JW.

  No, I didn't like it.

  No, I didn't have a choice. Jehovah would kill me at Armageddon if I didn't get baptized. Armageddon didn't come around in 1975. His bad.
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  More religious weirdness: home circumcision

  by behemot in

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  http://www.vancouversun.com/health/found+guilty+negligence+home+circumcision/2108197/story.html.

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  Hey the guy was a JW!! We need to support each other. And, he was working on the National Debt (not ours, Canada's, but, hey, we're neighbors):

  DJW is a former Jehovah's Witness who now follows the Old and New TestaMents of the Bible. Here’s what happened, according to a summary of the case in the judge’s ruling: DJW became interested in circumcision after reading THE books of Richard Hoskins, who advocates circumcision and claims there are Biblical answers to "all of the problems in society, including the number of abortions and homosexuals, and the national debt," judge wrote.
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  For my sis, Kelly...12 years ago today.

  by Tatiana in

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  my sis, kelly, killed herself 12 years ago today.

  feels like yesterday.

  http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&grid=5369813.

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  I am so very sorry for your loss. My heart goes out to you.
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  So my elder/dad says he will shun me....i figured as much...

  by oompa in

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  so i know many of you guys say the best way to show dubs is to be all happy and all when you exit.....but not all of us are doin that well at it....even though i have lost all friends from my dub life....i really dont want to lose my son and folks....this would happen if i end this odd and painful arrangement of a marriage to a really wonderful wife who is hardcore jw.

  my desire for freedom and normal social life, and the 800 lb gorilla in the room we live with are not doing so well...........i am tired of having to leave the house and go in the garage to talk on the phone with my non-dub friends.....tired of totally separate social lives.......tired of rules in place that prevent us from speaking about certain taboo topics with each other........my mental/emotional state is not well and has not been for four years.

  so i spoke with my dad very openly and honestly about how i have had to wear "masks" through life....one for school since third grade to fit in....another for my parents and jw friends........and that now i still lead a double life when not around my wife........told him outright i feel jws meet every single definition of a cult btw.......he already knew i felt that way but had never said it so directly........i asked him if he felt history repeats itself and could fds not be just like the scribes and pharisees that made so many rules for gods people that they had actually corrupted gods message............he said he has wondered that before too.

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  he said he has wondered that before too

  as i suspected, he said he would have no choice but to shun me just as he does my dfd son

  I'm so sorry. Having your parent acknowledge that they will cut you off, because the Cult in Brooklyn tells them to, is simply, unbelieveable. Unless you've been a Dub.

  Please hang in there. I know that sounds hollow, but, you have come so far in the last month. Don't let his being blind in this cult get you off track.

  (((Oompa)))
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  I need a hug

  by wouldacouldashoulda in

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  without posters asking why.. .

  w.

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  VIII

  I went back and read your first couple of posts.

  Based upon that I will give you a hug. And that picture of the two kitties hugging just inspired me.

  Welcome back mts. {{ }}