Posts by God_Delusion

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"Abstain from blood"

by God_Delusion in

i was doing some light reading today and saw the word "abstain" within a dictionary.

this was the definition of the word abstain;.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/abstain.

I was doing some light reading today and saw the word "abstain" within a dictionary. This was the definition of the word abstain;

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/abstain
1. To refrain from something by one's own choice
2. To refrain from voting

That's very interesting. Growing up as a Jehovah's Witness, I remember countless talks given by elders, ministerial servants that discussed the word "abstain" and "abstaining". I distinctly remember the information given about the word abstain and it clearly wasn't the same definition as given in the above dictionary.

"Abstain means that you must run away from", "get as far away from as possible", "have nothing to do with". Those are just a few of the phrases that I remember.

If abstain means that we have a choice in the matter of having/not having a blood transfusion, why are the WBTS so dead set against it? And secondly, can you post your comments on what you remember being told what the word abstain meant?

Before I go, I would also like to add that the phrase "we command you to" or "you must" abstain from blood, doesn't make any sense whatsoever, for if you are commanded to make a choice, then it stops being a choice and evolves into a task. If "task" was what the bible writer meant, why didn't he use it? Do you agree with this line of thought?

Kind regards
RAB

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Young JW sisters in a hurry

by asilentone in

did you notice any young jw sisters in the past that did rush to get married too young and to have a baby right away before the end comes?

did you hear any stories of regret?

i was wondering if the watchtower is to blame for?.

God_Delusion

I know this brother (who's not been to the meetings in ages) who was married only for sex. He got divorced after his wife was caught sleeping around. He got married within a year of being divorced, again for sex.

His life is a misery.

I do blame the WBT$ partly, but I also blame him for not leaving this cult when he realised it was one (he told me so). The pressure was just too much for him in the end and he got married again.

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I have known friends that got married when they were in their late twenties and thirties, but got divorced within months due to not enjoying their sex life with their partner.

Sex is part of life, so the joker that only allowed it whilst married should be shot. When going out with the opposite sex (or same sex if that's your preference), sex is a major part of the relationship that you hope to build.

Only being able to experience sex, a major part of your relationship, after you've said your vows is just wrong.

Put it this way, if we were created by a being (still can't believe people actually believe that btw), why did he/she/it give us sexual urges during our pubescent years, only to command us to try and control these urges until we get married? Oh sorry, I forgot, he/she/it likes testing us. Sounds as though god is some kind of dominatrix.

That's my two cents.

RAB

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Christians explain? Jews never believed in a Trinity even today so how/when did it start?

by Witness 007 in

jews for thousands of years have believed in their "one god" so i always wondered if in jesus time this was the view, how and when did the trinity start?

did jesus start it off?

are you saying jews were trinitarian?

God_Delusion

Did you ever go to the British Museum? You'll see from the certain artefacts that trinity was a pagan teaching. The Egyptian's also believed in tri-gods.

The trinity and the teaching's of Jesus Christ stem from pagan beliefs.

RAB

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paul makes no sense???

by highdose in

is it just me, but when i read my bible (nwt) i found whole pages of pauls writing that i didn't understand and couldn't make head nor tail of.

i also noticed that the borg tended to only quote certain scriptures that they thought they could make sense of pauls writings, and these were quoted over and over again.

but surely the whole bible is supposed to be inspired and benifical ... bla bla bla etc?.

God_Delusion

Didn't Paul say that we should stone men that had long hair?

I'm off to kill Kenny G, Slash and Michael Bay (he doesn't have long hair; but his movies suck and he needs to disappear).

RAB

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Our "Bible Study" with the Jehovah's Witnesses

by garyneal in

my wife and i had a "bible study" with an elder and his wife yesterday (9-11-09) and the topic was marraige.

the book we covered was "keeping yourself in god's love.

" this particular "bible study" was based primarily on the topic we covered in the book and, of course, there was a lot of "hop scotching" of the bible.

God_Delusion

Gary, in relation to your not understanding the 144,000 section, please review Revelation 14:4 as it also tells us that the 144,000 are Firstfruits and virgins who have not "defiled" themselves with women.

JW's take the 144,000 section as not being symbolic, but the fact that the 144,000 have to be men and Jewish is symbolic.

Can someone explain to me and Gary how the WTB$ explain this? Why is only part of that scripture not symbolic??

RAB

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Our "Bible Study" with the Jehovah's Witnesses

by garyneal in

my wife and i had a "bible study" with an elder and his wife yesterday (9-11-09) and the topic was marraige.

the book we covered was "keeping yourself in god's love.

" this particular "bible study" was based primarily on the topic we covered in the book and, of course, there was a lot of "hop scotching" of the bible.

God_Delusion

Well done on fully researching the JW's. I wish I had done the same thing, unfortunately, I was forced into getting baptised when I was very young. It was either sticking with the programme or becoming homeless.

After all these years, I have come to realise that there is no god. There simply can't be. If we are to believe in the god of the bible, then I'd rather die at Armagenocide rather than have to serve a bloodthirsty god named Jehovah.

As you are the type of guy that likes his research, please look into the evidence that there simply cannot be a god. Start off by reading The God Delusion, or, read this book;

http://rapidshare.com/files/269798548/The_Atheist_s_Book_of_Bible_Stories.pdf

I implore all god believers to download this PDF and read it.

Kind regards

RAB

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Baby P dad converts in prison

by nelly136 in

http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/news/north-east-news/2009/09/13/demonstration-targets-low-newton-prison-79310-24673838/demonstration targets low newton prisonsep 13 2009 by phil doherty, sunday sun.

soft sentences for child killers has sparked prison protest plans.. around 100 people are expected to turn up at the demonstration outside low newton prison in county durham, where notorious inmate tracey connelly has been caged for her part in the death of her son, baby p.. the protest by the abused babies and children (abc) foundation was prompted by revelations connelly, her boyfriend steven barker and his brother jason owen have launched appeal bids against their sentences.. peter connelly, baby ps real name, died after suffering months of abuse.. haringey social services, doctors and the metropolitan police all failed to remove him from his mothers care despite evidence he was being abused.. tracey was ordered to be held indefinitely a minimum of five years after pleading guilty to a charge of causing or allowing the death of a child or vulnerable person and was transferred to low newton prison after receiving death threats in styals womens prison, cheshire.. as it emerged connelly had lodged an appeal, the abc foundations organiser mandy francis, 52, said: we were disgusted with the sentences handed out to these killers and then they decided to add insult to injury by appealing against their sentences.. we want to help get peter the justice he deserves and for the government to realise that people are fed up with the paltry sentences handed out by the courts in cases like this.

life should mean life.. the abc foundation, who will stage their protest on october 4, are also furious connelly, barker and owen could be given new identities for their protection.. barker, who was also convicted of raping a two-year-old girl, was jailed for life with a minimum of 10 years for the rape and a 12-year sentence for peters death.

God_Delusion

He's become a JW? That sounds about right.

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Serving Jehovah Doesn't Take Much Effort

by God_Delusion in

when you where at the demon hall, did you ever get a talk about how easy it was to serve jehovah?.

i was having a conversation with a friend recently about this and i wrote down what is expected of a jehovah's witness;.

go to 4 meeting per week.

God_Delusion

Oh my, is that you? Well, howdy partner!

Oh, and btw Angel Eyes, you remind me of myself 10 years ago. Look at me now...I'm free.

RAB

FAJW

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Who owns the Watch Tower Society & the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society

by God_Delusion in

it never dawned on me until now.

who is the legal representative of both the above parties?

also, can someone post the definitions of what both organisations do?.

God_Delusion

Fair enough.

Does anyone think that a few people have gotten quite rich out of the organisations (JW) that exist?

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Are the Jehovah's Witnesses, under the direction of the GB Jah's org?

by isaacaustin in

please let active jws comment here first.

i am especially inerested in their response as to whether the governing body is god's channel of truth, leading the members of the congregations, the sum of whom cumulatively make up jehovah's organization.

if so, why, and on what basis..

God_Delusion

Why, thank you Isaac Austin