Posts by God_Delusion

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Two Trees in the Garden of Eden

by God_Delusion in

isn't it weird how so few know that there were actually two major trees in the garden of eden account.. there was the tree of knowledge (of good and bad) and there was also the tree of life.. genesis chapter 3 makes is quite clear that god banished adam and eve from the garden and placed an angel to guard the tree of life, so that they might not eat from it again.

is this implying that the two perfect humans had to eat from the tree in order to have eternal life?

if not, why protect it?.

God_Delusion

Isn't it weird how so few know that there were actually two major trees in the Garden of Eden account.

There was the Tree of Knowledge (of Good and Bad) and there was also the Tree of Life.

Genesis chapter 3 makes is quite clear that God banished Adam and Eve from the Garden and placed an angel to guard the Tree of Life, so that they might not eat from it again. Is this implying that the two perfect humans had to eat from the tree in order to have eternal life? If not, why protect it?

I did some mulling over this point and realised that the main reason all Christian religions/cults gloss over this fact, is that it would make Jesus' ransom sacrifice null and void. Think about it for a minute or so. If perfection meant that you didn't live forever, but needed to eat from a tree to do so, why did Jesus die for our sins? What purpose would that serve?

If anyone has any ideas, please let me know.

Cheers,

Carlos

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Further developments in my JC

by teel in

short review: the elders "invited" me to a friendly chat with 3 elders.

i told them since it's about my official status with jw's i request an official invitation in writing.

they denied it, and went ahead and kept the jc without me, notifying me that i'm df'd and if i want to appeal, send it in writing (btw: .

God_Delusion

I haven't been summoned to a Judicial yet, although I have been told by my cousin (an elder) that the elders are trying to find a reason for me to be disfellowshipped.

I visited my lawyer 6 weeks or so ago and told him what happens when one is "disfellowshipped".

"Well Carlos, that is defamation of character, which falls under the "defamtion, libel and slander act under common law". My lawyer has insisted that he be taken along to any future JC and has already virtually guaranteed me that if I am to be disfellowshipped, the elders would not be allowed to disclose this information to their wives or friends. Neither could any announcement about me not being one of Jehovah's Witnesses be conducted.

I would be disfellowshipped, but only the 3 elders, the society, my lawyer and I would know about it. If it did get out, my lawyer has encouraged me to file a case against the society within my country of residence.

Has anyone else done this? The laws that govern my country of residence are taken from the British Common Law system. I am sure it is different in the States and other countries.

Carlos

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I've been labelled an apostate over Paedophile scandal - official

by James_Slash in

i recieved this e-mail earlier today after making an issue out of the paedophile problem on my facebook page.

obviously, this person is a jw and someone must have snitched to her.. what did you think?.

hope you are well.

God_Delusion

I would reply and tell her to fu*k off.

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Were you rebellious?

by God_Delusion in

when i was younger (from the moment i could reason and remember), i didn't like going to the meetings, having a weekly bible study or going out on the ministry.

in fact, i didn't like to do any "theocratic" stuff.. i would of course, get beaten up by my loving zealous pioneer mother due to my rebellious nature.. funny thing was, that even from the age of 5, i knew something was wrong with this religion (cult).

at the age of 16, i decided that i simply didn't believe in any of it, but i didn't leave as my mother threatened to make me homeless if i stopped going to the meetings.

God_Delusion

When I was younger (from the moment I could reason and remember), I didn't like going to the meetings, having a weekly bible study or going out on the ministry. In fact, I didn't like to do any "theocratic" stuff.

I would of course, get beaten up by my loving zealous pioneer mother due to my rebellious nature.

Funny thing was, that even from the age of 5, I knew something was wrong with this religion (cult). At the age of 16, I decided that I simply didn't believe in any of it, but I didn't leave as my mother threatened to make me homeless if I stopped going to the meetings. I had a friend that was also made homeless. Frank died 8 months after. He hadn't even turned 17. I was simply too scared to stop.

I left home at 17 and left "the truth ™ ".

So then, did any of you realise at a very young age that something was terribly wrong?

Carlos

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what was the worst advice given to you while you were a JW ?

by wasblind in

mine's was, if your job interfere with the meetings you have to decide who you will choose,.

serving jehovah or serving man, if anyone knew my needs it most definitely was jehovah.

and he knew i needed my job to eat.

God_Delusion

I was told that I had to close my eyes and thank an imaginary friend each and every time I decided to eat something and before going to bed.

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"Fake" Blood: Is This Good News For JW's?

by Mad Dawg in

scientists develop 'fake' genetically-engineered blood for use on the battlefield.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1293361/scientists-develop-fake-genetically-engineered-blood-use-battlefield.html.

God_Delusion

If it's anything like True Blood, I would like a nice warm bottle of O Positive!

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SO sad! The elders never cease to amaze me...

by babygirl30 in

jw
friends

on fb yesterday, an old friend of mine 'friended' me....and once again, i was hesitant to actually accept because i didn't know how she would feel about me being df'd.

but i accepted, and she sent me a msg.

well we ended up talking back and forth for awhile, and found out that she lives right around the corner from me!!!!!!!!!!

God_Delusion

But Jehovah installed these men as elders, therefore, they must be right.................

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their invite to check the bibliography

by booby in

jw
friends

since i spent a bit of time looking up this info i shamelessly copied from another thread for a new post here to get thoughts on how goofy their bibliography is.

how many jw's would take the time, if they even take the time to read the brochure, to check out these references in the bibliography.. how fast can a cell reproduce?

on page 11 includes reference 16 to bibliography.. that book can be found here http://www.scribd.com/doc/26545498/brain-matters-translating-research-into-classroom-practice.

God_Delusion

She's not a smart woman then mate.

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Getting my children out

by God_Delusion in

my wife is still in and no matter what logic i show her, she still wants to continue with the cult.

for me, she's a lost cause.

i explained the 607 factor and her reaction to that was "well, that isn't important to me as i still believe, plus, there's no where else for me to go.".

God_Delusion

"BTW, it will be probably easier for you to help your wife if you will keep reading the Bible and talk about spiritual things...., than if you would become an atheist all of sudden."

It's a bit too late for that.

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The Origin of Life / Was Life Created - Utter Lies!

by God_Delusion in

"peter faces a dilemma.

his parents have taught him that god created the earth and all life on it.

they say that the bible's account of creation is trustworthy and that evolution is simply a theory-one not supported by the evidence.

God_Delusion

"Peter faces a dilemma. His parents have taught him that God created the earth and all life on it. They say that the Bible's account of creation is trustworthy and that evolution is simply a theory-one not supported by the evidence. Peter's teacher and his parents all mean welt. But whom should Peter believe?" - The Origin of Life

Oh no they didn't!

I cannot believe that they would make up such a lie?

My aim is to write an article about these two brochures.

If you have read these brochures and have also found additional lies, please let me know. The article I will write, will be published in the local newspaper.

Everyone who contributes will have their name mentioned (or not, if you don't want to be outed).

The public needs to be informed about the lies of the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society!

Cheers,

Carlos

PS. It also looks as though the WBTS' target market consists of individuals that have very low IQ levels.