Many J-Dubs are realizing that they willl die in this system. This is a truly a foreign idea prior to 1995. The 15-year plus crowd are tired of the burdensome yoke of the org. Many live a double-life or just leave.
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It Seems More Witnesses are Exiting Since 1995 - From Your Responses
by flipper ini started a thread last week about when each of you exited the jehovah's witness cult.
i received about 41 responses from different people on the board and the years they exited the witnesses.
i went back and analyzed the dates you gave me and it was apparent from your replies that 25 of you left between 1998 and 2009 a period of about the last 10 years.
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Jehovah's Witnesses - No Different From the World
by metatron inwhat kind of problems characterize today's world?
first, hateful division - in which anyone who doesn't belong to your particular nation/tribe/sect/gender preference/sub-culture is denigrated and somehow, inferior to you.. next, how about deception?
is that rife in the world today?.
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Realistically, the witnesses are just imperfect humans attempting to live up to their own interpetation of the bible. They are really no different than any other religion (in the sense of being FLAWED). Catholics (Pope is the vicar of God), Mormons (Joseph Smith speaking to a special angel), Pentacostal (Do u feel the spirit?? I can see it!!) among others have quirks, errors and flaws.
I went to Bethel and have never have been so ostracized in my life. I was a regular pioneer and was NOT dressed properly, therfore the ill-treatment. There were MANY things that showed me the flaws on that ONE visit.
I have know elders that begged women to fornicate, wife-swapping, gang-members.........the list is endless. Despite feeling superior, the J-Dubs are just imperfect people!!!
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The Movie Knowing- Opinions
by SouthCentral indid you see the movie knowing??
did you catch the subliminal messages?
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"So it was just a bunch of Intergalactic pedophiles."
I never thought of it that way.....I love interchanging thoughts!!!!
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The Movie Knowing- Opinions
by SouthCentral indid you see the movie knowing??
did you catch the subliminal messages?
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Sorry....I tried to seperate the info into 2 post. The effects of the movie are worth seeing. I would like to view it again myself and I know what happens as well!!!!
It cost $50+ to go to the movie so I only go for good stuff. Went to City walk in Hollywood and it was about $80.00!!! OUCH!!!
Great 2 see u again Blondie. Love your post...
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The Movie Knowing- Opinions
by SouthCentral indid you see the movie knowing??
did you catch the subliminal messages?
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This is a summary of the plot;
The film opens in Lexington, Massachusetts in 1959, where a competition is held among the students of a new elementary school to celebrate its opening. The winning plan, from student Lucinda Embry, a seemingly mentally disturbed girl who is known to freeze while hearing strange whispering voices, is to bury a time capsule containing the students' drawings of the future to be opened 50 years later in 2009. She is prevented from finishing her image, which is actually a series of seemingly random numbers, and goes missing during the ceremony. Her teacher later finds her in a gym closet, frantically scratching the remaining numbers into the door.
Fifty years later, the time capsule is opened and the pictures are handed down to the new generation of students. Caleb, the son of MIT professor and astrophysicist John Koestler, receives Lucinda's envelope. Initially dismissing them as random numbers, John notices a single random number sequence, 911012996, which contains the date of the World Trade Center attacks as well as the death toll of said attack. Further research leads John to realise the numbers are a list contain the dates and death tolls of almost every major disaster, natural and man made, that has happened over the past 50 years, with three that have not occurred yet.
When a commercial plane crash kills 81 people right in front of John, the legitimacy of the list of numbers is confirmed and leading John to believe that Lucinda had an ability to prognosticate since childhood until she died of an overdose of her medications. It is also revealed through this incident that the numbers contain the latitude and longitude of the every event listed. As his wife died in one of the past events, John starts to believe his son was chosen to get Lucinda's prophecies for a reason as well as race against time of trying to save the people who are fated to die within these predictions. After Caleb receives a vision of future global catastrophe from a silent man, John tries to contact the late Lucinda's daughter, Diana, to gain more information, but is rebuffed. But when John also predicts the second event, a subway train crash, Diana and her daughter, Abby, visit John and Caleb, and Diana reveals that her mother foretold of the date of her death would be on October 19th, which is also within the list. They investigate Lucinda's old mobile home in the woods, discovering walls of news clippings of the events and a drawing of Ezekiel's Wheel. During their investigation, the group encounters the silent man and three others, who vanish in a flash of light protruded from the man's mouth when John confronts them. Later Caleb is found writing numbers very similar to the ones that Lucinda wrote without realizing what he is doing. This may suggest that those numbers are predictions for future events. As a result of the confrontation, Abby is revealed to have been contacted by the "whisper people".
Initially believing that the last event will kill only 33, John eventually re-examines the numbers after Diana's mention on how her mother used to write numbers and letters backward. He discovers that the final digits are not "33", but actually "EE" written backwards; the final event is a massive solar flare that will kill "Everyone Else." As Diana prepares to travel to a system of caves she believes will save them, John breaks into the school to steal the door Lucinda scratched the numbers on. At his house, he begins to scrape the paint off the door, but Diana refuses to wait for him, and leaves with the kids. As the solar flare approaches, it begins to disrupt cell phone signals, preventing John from contacting Diana. She is finally able to contact John through a gas station pay phone, and he tells her that the final numbers are the coordinates of her mother's house, which he believes is safe, while the caves won't protect them from the solar flare's radiation. When panic erupts at the gas station following the government's activation of the national Emergency Alert System and announcement of the solar flare, two of the whisper people hijack Diana's car with the two children. Giving chase in another car, Diana is hit by a truck trying to run a red light, dying exactly at midnight, on the very day her mother predicted.
Arriving back at Lucinda's mobile home, John discovers the children are safe and comfortable in the presence of the whisper people. The whisper people are revealed to be celestial angel-like beings who invite the children to escape the destruction "to help everyone start over". At first, Caleb is very reluctant to go when his father is not invited to come along; John successfully persuades him to go, saying that they will be together again eventually. The whisper people leave Earth on their ship, a massive structure resembling Ezekiel's Wheel, as other ships also depart Earth. As anarchy reigns in New York City and Boston John arrives to be with his parents and sister just as the solar flare strikes Earth and incinerates all life on the planet. Caleb and Abby are dropped off on an Earth-like planet with at least two moons as the other ships drop off their passengers. The movie ends as the two children, dressed in white, run toward a large white tree, possibly being the fabled Tree of Life.
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The Movie Knowing- Opinions
by SouthCentral indid you see the movie knowing??
did you catch the subliminal messages?
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Did you see the movie knowing?? Did you catch the subliminal messages?
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Reluctant to tell others of JW past?
by happpyexjw inhas anyone felt uncomfortable telling others that they were once jws?
i have shared this info with very few people in the 19 years since i left.
i don't want to have to explain to someone who wouldn't understand anyway.
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I have not been to the hall in 5 years, yet many co-workers still consider me a witness. I live a very christian life, despite NOT going to the hall. I am glad for the experience. I have learned it is GREAT not to be ashamed of who I AM/ WAS.
I tell people I grew up a witness so........
Never a problem for me.
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Do you think JW's really know the "Truth" about the "Truth"?
by Quirky1 inwith the many threads surfacing here focusing on internet access opening eyes of beleivers and the unsuccessful d2d work, how many do you think really know the truth and are just going with the motions?
and if so, what is there reasoning?
family, freinds, etc...
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I remember the sign at Dodger stadium. My ride yelled at me for looking at them. They said, DON'T read that!!! The powerfull thought police. I eventually read the 1968 WT regarding 1975 and the doubts began as a teenager. When the Generation teaching changed, that was the icing on the cake.
To answer your question, NO...they have NO idea..as I did NOT.
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Thoughts on the 2012 theory?!
by ZeusZero inwhat are your thoughts on the 2012 theory regarding the end of the world.
we have read recently about the financial crisis being an early sign of this end.
id like to know what you fellow brothers and sisters think of this.
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Actually, the sun is only at the centre of the Solar System, which is less than a mere pin prick on one of the outer arms of the Milky Way Galaxy. The Milky Way itself is only one of trillions of galaxies all moving around the universe at incredible speed.
So there's probably not much significance there at all.
As mentioned, the sun will be at the center of the GALAXY. It is a given that the sun is at the center of our solar system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012
John Major Jenkins and others [11] believe that an alignment will occur when the sun rises above the horizon on December 21 2012, at which point the sun will rise in the middle of the Milky Way Galaxy, thus causing an alignment between the earth, sun, and the Galactic Center. [12] It is suggested that this event will cause numerous changes on Earth. However, the event is only a visual phenomenon from the Earth's perspective, which is caused by the precession of the equinoxes or the 26,000 year wobble of the earth, and thus only changes our perspective, not the actual position of the earth in relation to the galaxy. In short, there is no gravitational force or radiation to be expected from this event because other than the tilt of the earth; nothing will be any different from what occurs in any other solstice. [13] [14] [15]
Michael Tsarion [16] and others think that an actual physical alignment of our entire solar system will occur with the horizontal plane of the Milky Way Galaxy on that day. The solar system is moving around the center of the galaxy every 225 million years or so, and while doing so is moving up and down in a cycle crossing the plane every 33 million years. According to the Journal Nature, however, there is evidence of the solar system crossing the galactic plane 3 million years ago. This would mean that we are moving away from the galactic plane, not toward it, and we will not be due to cross it for another 30 million years. [17]
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Thoughts on the 2012 theory?!
by ZeusZero inwhat are your thoughts on the 2012 theory regarding the end of the world.
we have read recently about the financial crisis being an early sign of this end.
id like to know what you fellow brothers and sisters think of this.
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I think one of the dramatic differences is the poles may switch in 2012. The sun being at the center of the galaxy may have some significance that we are not aware of.