from jw.org, here is the new definition of the generation from the april 15, 2010 watchtower.. .
article: holy spirits role in the outworking of jehovahs purpose.
13 third, holy spirit is at work in bringing bible.
Wow. I have given up!!!.....This teaching should just be the unfinished mystery.
If taken to the public during the time of a controversy (transfusion case), this teaching alone would be the downfall of the entire organization. It's kinda like the priest scandal, there is no valid explanation or excuse. It's is JUST WRONG!!
i played a role in a convention drama when i was 14. it was a really poxy modern day drama.
something about catching my bigger brother puffing on a cigarette lol.
i had to practice the part for months in a dogey american accents.
Many assemblies; circuit and district. I was a High school pioneer, so there was always an experience to embellish upon and share with the fellow J-Dubs!!!
i have a problem.
my hubby and i are tying to fade out completely, but we ran into a snag.
my in-laws showed up with a stack of time slips and said that they will turn them in for us if we fill them out.
The choice is obviously yours. One option is to not turn in the slips and say that you did not talk about God to anyone or just put 5-7 hours on each slip and more on.
\I turned in time for several years, but did not go to a meeting. I was recently told that I could NOT turn in time unless I went to the hall, per the Circuit Overseer.
here is the thing.
as mentioned earlier i have been fading for almost 2 years now.
i moved to another congr.
I tried to fade and was very effective for a while. I turned in time every month for years until I was told that I could not anymore unless I came to the hall. I had recieved about 2 visits per year from the elders. They invited me to go back recently.
I sat on the front row, quoted scriptures and commented 3 times. They have not bothered me for a while since. The first thought is that you are engaging in immorrality or that you are ashamed. I have no shame, it's just a religion. When they see that that's not the case, they are kinda dumbfounded.
I really have no desire to turn in time again, but I will attend periodically because it is obviously a family thing. Social activities for the children and parties for my wife.
Also, I have invested many, many billions in a bank account, why let the WT take away my investment (friends, family ect...)
I feel all religions are imperfect, the J-Dubs are no different. Catholics justify bad preiest, mormons have slaughtered others, there are doctrinal errors everywhere....
whatever your chosen strategy for leaving jws, the fundamental truth is that there is no clean / simple exit.
the mind control, the manipulation of normal family relationships etc will make any strategy very difficult at times.
the key issue is to know this ahead of time and be prepared, as best you can.. we've all chosen leaving strategies acording to our personal circumstances, preferences and learning from others.
Oh yeah, I quotes scriptures and references in the publications as well. Thanks for keeping me updated everyone!! After serving as an elder and pioneer, some things never change. They just get darker!!!
whatever your chosen strategy for leaving jws, the fundamental truth is that there is no clean / simple exit.
the mind control, the manipulation of normal family relationships etc will make any strategy very difficult at times.
the key issue is to know this ahead of time and be prepared, as best you can.. we've all chosen leaving strategies acording to our personal circumstances, preferences and learning from others.
I had a perfect fade!!! I had turned in time for years until the CO said that I could not turn in time unless I came to the meetings. I had always allowed the elders to come over as well. I was almost invisible, until I was OFICIALLY Inactive, after not turning in time. This despite never going to the hall in 4 or 5 years....
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Why let someone else define what u are? I have invested a lifetime in a religion that is filled with errors......like every other religion.....I would say NO!!
The WT can can their beliefs, but I can't?
I spoke to a devout christian friend once and he mentioned that everyone in his church did not share all the same beliefs.....It's was NOT a big deal.
Encouraging!! (sorry for the errors, in a hurry!!)
the elders stopped by today.
they spoke of a new arrangement where the org is asking everyone to come back regardless of their sins.
they just want them to come back with impunity.
@ Think- I agree!!
I remember a case In the 80's (can't remember all the details, I was a teenager but) a brother was a fornicator as a youth, so he disappeared for 20 years. He came back as a bible study, then made MS. I think he confessed to his youthful sins. He was privately DF, then reinstated or something similar. I knew because the PO was my pioneer partner or partna as we say in South-Central. This loving provision allows for that not to happen again!!! (lol)
the elders stopped by today.
they spoke of a new arrangement where the org is asking everyone to come back regardless of their sins.
they just want them to come back with impunity.
They also mentioned, many DO's will teach the new elder's school, so many CO's are moving up to the District work. I find it hard to believe that people still believe this stuff with the generation change. That is the biggest flaw in organized religion since "Bad Priest relocation act".
Then again, it is MY personal belief that ALL religions are flawed, the dubs are no different.
the elders stopped by today.
they spoke of a new arrangement where the org is asking everyone to come back regardless of their sins.
they just want them to come back with impunity.
@ blue- probably. I agree with you. I clearly stated that I have nothing to confess, so they left it alone. Went down another angle.......doom and gloom..Oh yeah and we love u!!
