Posts by wantingtruth

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So I went to vote yesterday...

by teel in

guess i'm bird food now, huh?

it was quite an impulse vote, didn't really know any of the candidates, but i have a small interrest in not having a government change, so i went with that one.

mostly it was just to show myself that i can .

wantingtruth

teel,

are you content or dissapointed by the results ?

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i have been thinking lately about how the jw's believe that satan was kicked out of heaven in 1914 after the war in heaven.. first of all, why did it take so long for jehovah to finally decide to kick him out of heaven from the time that he decieved and turned his back on jehovah in genesis?

why was satan allowed to have access to heaven in the between time up until 1914?.

also, if revelation is supposed to be a future event, why do the jw's use that event as "already occurred"?.

wantingtruth

some indirectly but real answers to these questions may be found ... here

wantingtruth

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i belive apostates are the most humble people around...

by highdose in

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friends

i'll try to explain what i mean.

i belive that in every congo of dubs these days there is a large percentage that does not belive what the gb are currently spouting.

but you will not find these people admitting this to themselves a) because they would loose status and b) they would have to admit to themselves that they have been wrong and living a lie.. to acknowledge this requires alot of humilty, and to stop that lifestyle and start again requires great courage.

wantingtruth

you are right,

some of the "apostates" from WTS point of view are exactly the "least brothers of Jesus" to whom the kingdom will be given

this is the "course" God prescribed to take place for those loving the truth, to publicly acknowledge that they are against of the machinations of Devil and of his slaves and against the lie

right that

wantingtruth

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What accusations do you have about us JWs? AND what group are YOU a part of?

by theMadJW in

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i'm one of the few jws that freely admit our faults and mistakes.. let's compare notes!.

wantingtruth

the Jws - at least those at higher level in organisation- have done a "covenant" or a contract to serve God

so they are "His own"

that means that God himself has the right to have something against them/Jws

reading the Bible we may find what God has against his people...

so, MadJw , what does God has against your people ? have you read it in the Bible ?

wantingtruth

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Kingdom of Heaven Like a Mustard Seed

by cameo-d in

"the kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed which a man took, and sowed in his field:.

"which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof.

why is the kingdom compared to a bitter seed?.

wantingtruth

The kingdom being like a "mustard seed" resembles with the "stone" of Daniel 2 :35,44

first the stone was little , after it kick the big statue it grows as a mountain

this is the way the kingdom will "come on earth"

we know from Bible that the kingdom is to be given to the "people of saints" (Daniel 7:27) , that is , a group of christians , the "least ones" brothers of Christ

for the beginning this group have to be very little known and with little power , but helped by God

they have to face a big giant / big statue , that is , another humangroup claiming that they are/represent the kingdom

now, we know the big statue/wery known group claiming that they are the kingdom : it is an worldwide organisation known as WTB&TS

what remains to be seen is the "stone" or the insignifiant group who, helped by God's spirit , and using in a right way God's word , have to "kick" the big statue together with its pretention to be the kingdom of God , using the "word" and as a result the big statue/organisation has to be broken in pieces ... under our sight

now , we all have to be in watch for , when we will see that , will have to give glory to God for He has accomplished His word

wantingtruth

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the name Jehovah in the New Testament

by jahrule in

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wantingtruth

quote :

"are there any jehovah's witnesses on this site who can asnwer my question? if not, where will i find them? "

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I am a witness for Jehovah

I became so by going out from men's organisation , to follow Christ

I don't have answer for your questions , I know only what I can learn from God's word

every thing happens is with God's will

if the OT has God's Name in it , then means it was God's will to be so

if the NT doesn't have God's fully Name in it , then it was accordingly to His will (indeed the short form "Yah" exists in comopsite words/names )

BUT why did God proceeded this way ?

I find in His word this declaration : Proverbs 25

2. It is the glory of God to conceal a thing; But the glory of kings is to search out a matter

........we can see here that God's way of sharing the knowledge in His word , was by "concealing" the matters/things

Once again we read in His word : Job 33

14. For God does speak—now one way, now another—
though man may not perceive it.

........again we see that God could do that : to explicitely use His Name in the hebrew writings , while in the christian writings He did not used it

Did Jesus used God's Name ? the scriptures says yes ; but we see that the inspired records could be written without a directly using of the Name.

BUT does Jesus agree that His Father's Name is YHWH/ Jehovah ?

-- YES !

By saying :"Your word is truth" , then Father's words in Exodus 3 are true and trustworthy

15. And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, Jehovah, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name forever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.
ASV

So , using the Name of God (even today ) is accordingly to His will

WHY does God proceeds like that with us (writing His word concealing the matters) ?

I find that He has the right to do so , as also we have the right/or obligation to manifest all our faith in Him

In this way we can show / prove our trust/faith in/toward Him

indeed, there are "faith" and "trust" He requires from us , and He gives to us plenty of situations to prove these

friendly,

wantingtruth.

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The Kingdom of God - when in Heaven ? -- according to Jesus

by wantingtruth in

john said "...the truth came through jesus christ" ?

--------the kingdom of god---------- .

"the kingdom of god is near.

wantingtruth

Thank you AWEN for the comment !

the Bible Shows to us God's point of view regarding His people's situation , and not human's (point of view)

and God's is much higher than ours ! Isaiah 55:8,9

we can better understand what happened with those sincere seekers for truth from the 1870 onward , when we see how God did proceeded with them , (in fact the same He proceeds with us to-day)

we read in Proverbs 25

2. It is the glory of God to conceal a thing; But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.

this means the Bible (and specially the prophecies ) were written in an "concealed" way

and it is also said inspirately that only at the "end" the wise ones will understand them,

and though , all christians from apostles untill to-day were under the following commandment

20. do not treat prophecies with contempt.

in these circumstances it was very easy to came to wrong conclusions from prophecies

this is the main reason , God is judging His servants of older times accordingly to their heart toward His word and commandments , and not according to the way they understood/missunderstood the prophecies ( in the second case , all of them/us are failed before Him )

BUT in the case of the present FDS/GB specially after 1942 , they had a bad heart before YHWH , they used the wrong prophetical interpretations as a basis for their further actions of deliberately sinning against God , Jesus and Holy Spirit.

Well, it was a pleasure to meet you !

I hope we will meet again !

greetings

wantingtruth

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Does the account of Job and keeping your eye on the prize contradict?

by creativhoney in

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wantingtruth

Awen

you have a pm (click on little blue envelope right upside next to your screenname )

thank you

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Time of The END ????

by wobble in

a number of religions ,not just the wacky dubs, claim we are in the "time of the end ".

now, leaving out silly numbers and 1914, which was blown away years ago, what do such apocalyptic doom-mongerers have from scripture to give this idea credence ?.

the only thing i can think of , apart from the "cry of peace and security " which is no proof at all, is daniels dream image in dan chap.

wantingtruth

all of you have seen the fact that several generations of worshippers (from Russell until today) have had several approachings on Bible prophecies included the chronologies ,and all are being proven wrong

who can tell , what is the "common thing" of these interpretations ?

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Faithful and Discreet Slave

by stillin in

i'm sure that this has been discussed before, but bear with me while i share my little insight.. the scripture about the fds is found in jesus description of the last days in matthew 24. not in mark 13, nor luke 21. those other writers didn't consider it important enough to include it in their writings.

it is the only mention, as far as i know, of any such "arrangement," yet on face value, if you are just reading the bible, it seems more like one of jesus' thought-provoking rhetorical questions, rather than a part of the sign of the last days.

no "two or three witnesses," yet this one scripture has become a rallying cry for a whole religion, consisting of millions of adherents!.

wantingtruth

I came to know one of these "faithful and discreet slave "