If we are Christians, we should believe Jesus words :
John 12:31:
"Now is the time for judgment on this world;
now the prince of this world will be driven out....
according to jws christ established his kingdom in the heavens in 1914 and subsequently cast satan out of heaven then.
and they point to rev.
12:7-9 for "proof.
If we are Christians, we should believe Jesus words :
John 12:31:
"Now is the time for judgment on this world;
now the prince of this world will be driven out....
even if 607 had been the actual date of the destruction of jerusalem .... 1914 would still be wrong.
when the wts says that "7 times" equals 2 x 3,5 times of revelation = 2 x 1260 days = 2520 days > one day / one year rule = 2520 years.. now, 2520 / 7 times means that one "time" has 360 "days".
this corresponds to the lunar year.
i just got 2 emails from them inviting me to a conference call about the memorial.. i have no idea how they got my email address.. coffee .
therefore, if the 70 years period is for the destruction of jerusalem and exile at babylon:.
if zedekiah had not rebelled against babylon, had he surrendered during the final siege that lasted two and a half years, then the destruction of jerusalem and the deportation need not have happened.
then in the jubilee year, they were set free and their hereditary land was returned to them.
Dear Brothers and Sisters,
I address you, those who are Jehovah's Witnesses, those of you who believe that Scripture should settle all matters. You are reading this, because you, like I was, are wondering if the claims about 607 BC are true or false. Else, you are reading this because you are an apologist, but I've yet to see an apologist that will calmly and rationally give a sound argument.
Let's be honest. If 607 BC is wrong, then 1914 is wrong, and so is the appointment of a Slave in 1918/1919 over all Christ's belongings. That is the crux of the matter. That is why 607 BC is so heavily defending. That is why you are reading this.
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Dear Londo,
Both 607 and 1914 are true, because they are in calendar / but they do not count at all in any teaching related with the Kingdom of God nor with its "coming" on earth .
A few years ago I wrote a short article where I proved with Jesus words when the Kingdom has started in Heavens
( and when and how it comes on earth is another subject )
>>>>Anyone may see it by cliking here<<<<
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a biblical research on subject i appreciate.
( attention : is not written by me ).
jehovah's genuine mountain.
Where and what is this ?
A Biblical research on subject I appreciate
( attention : is NOT written by me )
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i read in a forum in spanish that there is a strong rumor spreading in the corridors of the wt.
has anyone heard anything about this??
the change that is emerging is this: the great crowd has not yet appeared, and it is a group that comes out of the great tribulation.
english lesson please : what does "and MOON every jw" means ?
I mean the verb MOON
thank you in advance
i'm just doing some research for my book, and i uncovered a real gem from the watch tower of july 1st 1914 - published three months before the "gentile times" were due to end climaxing (as they thought back then) in armageddon.. a rather brave "colporteur" (pioneer) wrote in to the magazine asking whether the studies in the scriptures series of books advocating 1914 to be the end of the world should cease to be circulated after october.
not only does the question itself prove that the expectations of publishers back then were entirely contrary to what the society repeatedly implies them to be, but the answer given by russell shows the same arrogance and evasiveness that we see in modern literature from the society, showing how little has changed since those days.. here is the clipping.... .
notice how russell falls back on the same line of argumentation used by the society, namely "we have not attempted to say these views are infallible.".
I think he meant the year from Adam's creation (not B.C. and not A.D. )
greetings everybody !.
i've found the following article being useful specially for those seeing the "light" but not having the courage to leave .... written not by me.
imagine yourself back in first century jerusalem.... .
Greetings everybody !
I've found the following article being useful specially for those seeing the "light" but not having the courage to leave ...
written not by me
Imagine yourself back in First Century Jerusalem...
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hi guys,.
i call myself a lurker, but it's really been a short time since i've known about this site...it's only been five days.
i discovered this site while doing personal research on the topics of porneia, oral sex, and mutual masturbation, and found a thread on this site about it.
as i was walking to the station today i passed three people handing out watchtower tracts at the precise moment that one of them happened to turn to the other and say, "it's going to rain.
" i thought it was quite amazing to hear such an accurate prophecy from them after having come across this rather interesting wikipedia entry and counting how often they have made the same failed prophecy (13, if you include the bible student movement):http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events.
i'm reading a book, called "when prophecy fails," quite an interesting book for someone like me, being rather interested in psychology, human behaviour, logic, truth, etc.. the example in the book explains what happens under certain conditions, when people have a very strong commitment to a prophecy which fails.
Why the WT prophecies have failed ?
... because the "signs" were fabricated by Satan ... to be a "counter sign" of the real end-time signs found in Matt. 24 !
read here the simple explanation
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