wantingtruth
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Here we go again. Dan 4 and 1914
by leaving_quietly inwtbts published a new article on jw.org (http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/daniel-4-bible-chronology-1914/) entitled "what does bible chronology indicate about the year 1914?
" in it, it points to daniel 4 as the prophecy and uses the same leaps of insane logic to get from the first and only fulfillment of that prophecy to 1914, using 607 as the starting point and 2,520 years as doubling the 1,260 years in revelation.
of course, there is no accounting for the difference in our solar years and the bible's lunar years, which makes the math have a very different outcome.
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1914 - "A Turning Point In History"?
by Bobcat inthe february 2014 public wt has a cover series of articles dealing with world war i, and by inference 1914. the articles describe wwi as 'causing the world to be changed' and as "a turning point in history.".
setting the wt's defective 1914 chronology aside for a minute, how do these statements about wwi coincide with the view of the nt?.
certainly wwi was a big war.
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wantingtruth
Hi Bobcat,
I understand time is precious for everybody so I try to be short
I firstly would rebuild my thought: the "1914" wasn't a "turrning point" even for the world history . It was more precisely an "accelerating point" for the unfolding of the 20th century' (humankind's ) history events ... (Im not sure how "english" sounds my expression , but I hope you readers understand )
I repeat the fact that the 1914' thing has no relevance for the "worshiper with spirit" of God , simply because all the theories around it have nothing to do with the "teaching of Christ" ! - it it beyound the limits of Jesus teachings / see 2John 1:9.
I mean, both the expectances believed to take place that year , as also the methods and reasons used for the calculation of that year were NOT biblical, and beyound of "Christ's teaching", so they were absolutely wrong, and worse than that, theirs believing in that idea (regarding 1914) has imprimed a bad course of God's people before their God.
If you will read this (my) post , what do you understand ?
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1914 - "A Turning Point In History"?
by Bobcat inthe february 2014 public wt has a cover series of articles dealing with world war i, and by inference 1914. the articles describe wwi as 'causing the world to be changed' and as "a turning point in history.".
setting the wt's defective 1914 chronology aside for a minute, how do these statements about wwi coincide with the view of the nt?.
certainly wwi was a big war.
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wantingtruth
Yes, the "1914" thing was a turning point for the human history
Yet it has nothing to do with the spiritual things , or those strictly related with God's Kingdom - except with the fact that the coincidence of a wrong chronology with the break out of the WW1 has mislead God's people into interpreting in a wrong way the prophecies regarding the "latter days" and "the end time" !
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and gretings Abe !
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Do Jehovah's Witnesses treat Watchtower publications like Idols
by Watchtower-Free ina facebook page that really needs to be trolled.
i believe this pic is the administrator of the page.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/jehovahs-witnesses-poems/187324991392156.
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wantingtruth
Do Jehovah's Witnesses treat Watchtower publications like Idols (?)
Unfortunately YES ! (I find that YES )
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Who is the faithful and discreet slave?
by wearewatchingyouman inwhen i discuss things with my father regarding whether a governing body is needed for christians one theme that is constant with him is "if it's not the gb who is the faithful and discreet slave - who else is giving food in these days to god's people?".
i've been working on a response to this for the last couple of months and am just curious as to who christians who are ex-witnesses interpret the faithful and discreet slave to be, and the parable in general.. .
i guess i'm just looking to round out my argument and have a few different angles.
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Does anyone know what is happening with Italy's (Rome) Bethel???
by LoisLane looking for Superman inthere are rumors out, that the italy (rome) bethel is being shut down and putting out to pasture a large portion of the bethel staff.. has anyone heard anything... ?.
the word is that everyone but the most senior members will be let go.
the senior bethel family members will be reassigned.
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wantingtruth
LaFrancia, ... your "earthly" organization (or that one you want to resuscite) ... is VERY democrat - NOT, AT ALL theocrat !
(my humble conclusion)
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what have you learned since leaving ?
by man in black insince leaving the jw religion,what can you say that you have learned about life/people in a positive way that you probably would have never experienced.
if you had remained a witness ?.
my story is regarding this :.
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wantingtruth
This is what I learn since my leaving...
you can read if you click on it
and also ... regarding "earthly organization"...
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Categories of Former Jehovah's Witnesses
by neverendingjourney ini was never disfellowshipped, but it's been about 10 years since i was an active jw.
i've made an occasional meeting or half-day at an assembly here or there, strictly at the behest of family (maybe once a year), but i'm completely disconnected.
more importantly, mentally i'm 100% free.. we all have a tendency to project our views and beliefs onto others, and tending to believe that other former jws share our views is no different.
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wantingtruth
Greetings !
Surely there exist that group of individuals who do obey Jesus Christ as Father wants (Matthew 17:5 )
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A Different View of "Peace and Security"
by Bobcat insince the wt this week has the prediction of a "peace and security" event, i thought i would include a comment from the new american commentary (nac, d. michael martin, pp.159-60) on 1 thessalonians 5:2, 3.. here is the wt's position, according to this week's wt study (sep 2012 study edition, pp.3 4):.
1 th 5:2, 3 is a "future development.".
it happens "just before that day of jehovah.".
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wantingtruth
"Paul's words are not describing the United Nations yelling "We have Peace and Security!" do they?"
THAT is right !
"We have the peace and the security" is what the "evil slave" (the GB) is crying (his motto ) - the essence and direction of his teachings , in order to blind others from God's will
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My struggle in leaving WTBTS - What is yours- if you want to share?
by Junebuggie inmy struggle- my journey finding salvationoctober 16, 2013 at 8:03pm"anyone who believes in the son of god has this testimony: god has given us eternal life, and this life is in his son.
he who has the son has life; he who does not have the son of god does not have life.
i write these things to you who believe in the name of the son of god so that you may know that you have eternal life.