Posts by JustHuman14

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Time to move on, my last post on JWN....

by JustHuman14 in

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friends

i have been posting into the forum since 2001(my previous avatar was "justhuman" and when forum changed to net, i couldn't retrieve my old avatar so i had to use a similar one and log in again).

almost 15 years are gone.

made some friends here, including mr flipper and one that i really miss dearly is oompa.

JustHuman14

Thanks for your comments all:

I agree with you yadda yadda, I feel just about the same...

And finaly Sir82, do you really believe that I'm leaving the forum, due to a depate????? By the way theory(Θεωρία) is a Hellinic word? Do you know the EXACT meaning of that word???? Without google it or search on line?

In many of my posts I said that I accept the Evolution Theory as a concept. But there is something beyond that as well. I was raised with the Books Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, and many other Hellenic Philosophers, that you are not aware with, and most of all, I have learned in order to reach for a conclusion to QUESTION EVERYTHING....

Thousands of years before Darwin, Greek Philosophers and Scientists, have set the foundations of the Evolution Theory. The entire Western Civilazation, is based upon the Hellinic Culture. Democracy, Architecture, Philosophy, and is not an accident that the majority of the words and terminology for Astronomical, Medical, Maths, Science are all Greek(Hellenic is the correct word). Do you know why? Try to talk about Darwin's Evolution without using a single Hellenic word, or become a doctor without using the Hellinic language... lets see if you can do that...

Thank you all for your comments, but is time to move on....

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The Fossil Record: vs God Allowing Pain & Suffering

by Shanagirl in

what a man does with the fossil record tells a lot about his worldview.

is it the result of a world-covering deluge?

or did this sorry chronicle of pain, suffering, and death precede humans (and the reign of death) by millions of years?

JustHuman14

Cofty, I didn't said that I don't believe in Evolution...there was an Evolution process. The main issue is who is responsible for that?

No one, including Scientists(and the majority of them are part of the control system that exists today on Earth) knows, or holds the absolute truth.

I always have as my moto, one saying of our Great Philosophers, Socrates: " I know one thing that I know NOTHING".... and the Greatest of all Aristotle said: " It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it"

good bye to all, since I have made my last post,

all the best

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Time to move on, my last post on JWN....

by JustHuman14 in

jw
friends

i have been posting into the forum since 2001(my previous avatar was "justhuman" and when forum changed to net, i couldn't retrieve my old avatar so i had to use a similar one and log in again).

almost 15 years are gone.

made some friends here, including mr flipper and one that i really miss dearly is oompa.

JustHuman14

I have been posting into the forum since 2001(my previous avatar was "justhuman" and when forum changed to net, I couldn't retrieve my old avatar so I had to use a similar one and log in again). Almost 15 years are gone. Made some friends here, including Mr Flipper and one that I really miss dearly is oompa. A really nice person that I had the chance to talk with through the net and the forum, and unfortunately he put an end to his life due to WT's shunning policy.

Although I haven't being posting a lot recently, still I feel, I need to close the subject WATCHTOWER, for good. Leaving WT cost my family, my life, lost long friends and relatives, I had to leave my home due to WT's policy of disfellowshiped and gone through very hard times, loneliness, depression, but I had to follow the long and narrow road. It would have been easier if I just stayed there, I have climbed almost all available "spiritual" steps in the WT ladder, and all I had to do was pretend, like many JW's are currently doing and "live" my life, with my children that I really feel empty not living with them. But no, that's not for me.

Personally I do miss the old forum and all timers that they left as well, plus I don't feel that this forum has nothing more to give me. It is like a dwelling place a harbour for many people out there, trying to set themselves free from WT''s tyranny and chains. Once they are ready, then they sail again. It has being my harbour for all those years, and help me a lot to exiting from the WT, but I need to carry on for my quest.

My spiritual journey is not over, I always seek and looking for answers, besides one of our Great Philosophers, Socrates said: " I know one thing, that I know NOTHING"...

The most important of all, is to remember all those who died in vain, due to blood issue, or put an end in their lives due to the WT Cult nature profile, and I feel sad to say that 2 close childhood friends I had, put an end to their lives because of the WT....

All I have to say is good luck to everyone, and the truth is out there...

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The Fossil Record: vs God Allowing Pain & Suffering

by Shanagirl in

what a man does with the fossil record tells a lot about his worldview.

is it the result of a world-covering deluge?

or did this sorry chronicle of pain, suffering, and death precede humans (and the reign of death) by millions of years?

JustHuman14

Then why they call it: Evolution Theory???

cheers Cofty

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The Fossil Record: vs God Allowing Pain & Suffering

by Shanagirl in

what a man does with the fossil record tells a lot about his worldview.

is it the result of a world-covering deluge?

or did this sorry chronicle of pain, suffering, and death precede humans (and the reign of death) by millions of years?

JustHuman14

Here we go again!!!!!!!!!!another Creation VS Evolution depate ready to roooooooll....

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More WT Propaganda: 10 Year Old Children Should Get Baptized!

by Oubliette in

i just caught this in an upcoming study article which will be "studied" in the congregations the week of 11/18-24/13:.

he and his wife were elated when their eldest daughter, age ten, told them that she loved her parents, loved the brothers and sisters, and loved jehovah very much.

she said that she wanted to dedicate her life to jehovah and get baptized.

JustHuman14

The sickening part is that, a 10 year old who got commited to the worst cult around, in that young age, might get disfellowshiped in 3-4 years time. Can you imagine a 13 year old kid being shunned and feeling the impact of WT's policy for the disfellowshiped ones??

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There Was No First Human

by cofty in

this excellent 4 minute video will help to clear up a few common misunderstandings regarding evolution.. ....

JustHuman14

1. Settling Down: Dead Ends and Transitions
  Between 8000 B.C.E. and 5000 B.C.E., some hunting-gathering groups developed more intensive techniques that permitted them to establish more sedentary settlements. In what is now central Russia, for example, groups were able to hunt wooly mammoths and supplement meat supplies with intensive gathering. The establishment of sedentary communities allowed intensive hunting and gathering groups to establish social stratification and commerce with other similar groups. An even more specialized society associated with the Natufian complex of the Middle East depended on the intensive gathering of wild grasses, primarily barley and wheat. Natufian society was stratified and probably matrilocal and matrilineal. Despite the development of intensive gathering and sophisticated storage of grains, Natufian society did not create any technological innovations. The dependence of Natufian society on regional grasses left them vulnerable to changes in the climate. Due to desiccation of the region, Natufian communities disappeared around 9000 B.C.E.
2. A Precarious Existence
  Whether grouped in small bands of nomadic hunters and gatherers or more densely clustered in intensive hunting and gathering groups, life for all Homo sapiens remained precarious. With limited technology and a vulnerablity to alterations in the migratory patterns of prey or climatic alterations that created changes in the ecosystems on which they depended, all human communities experienced the constant threat of extinction.
Agriculture and the Origins of Civilization: The Neolithic Revolution
1. Introduction
  Beginning around 8000 B.C.E., many human cultures became increasingly dependent on cultivated crops and domesticated animals to secure their supply of food. By 7000 B.C.E. sedentary agriculture was able to support towns with populations of more than 1,000, such as Jericho and Çatal Hüyük. By 3500 B.C.E., the first civilizations appeared in the Middle East. While no one knows for certain what conditions caused the shift from hunting and gathering to sedentary agriculture, changes in the climate may have been significant factors. It is also probable that increases in human population prompted changes in food production.
2. The Domestication of Plants and Animals
  The first plants domesticated were the wild grains - barley and wheat - that were common in many regions of the Middle East. The transition from hunting and gathering to agriculture took place slowly. Only as additional crops were added to the agricultural system did societies diminish efforts to hunt and gather. Early agriculturalists may have continued a seminomadic lifestyle. At approximately the same time as the domestication of wild grains, agricultural societies also began to domesticate animals. Dogs, sheep, goats, and pigs were among the first animals domesticated around 8500 B.C.E. Cattle, more aggressive and faster than the other animals, were added to the agricultural system around 6500 B.C.E. Domesticated animals improved the supplies of available protein, provided hides and wool for clothing materials, and increased the manuring of agricultural land.
3. The Spread of the Neolithic Revolution
  The greater effort expended in agricultural systems made the shift to sedentary communities impractical for many groups. Hunting and gathering societies and agricultural communities continued to coexist. Some groups practiced pastoralism, based on the dependence on domesticated animals. Pastoral societies often thrive in semiarid regions incapable of supporting large populations of farmers. Pastoral societies were often strongly militarized. During the period of the Neolithic revolution (8000 B.C.E. to 5000 B.C.E.), agricultural techniques of production spread from the Middle East to other areas of the globe where the climate permitted. The cultivation of wheat and barley expanded from the Middle East to India and Europe. From Egypt the cultivation of grain crops spread southward along the Nile. Africa south of the Sahara desert developed an independent agricultural system around 2000 B.C.E. based on root and tree crops. In China, Neolithic agricultural societies developed a separate system of crops based on millet. Somewhat later, farmers of Southeast Asia began to cultivate rice. American agricultural systems featured maize, manioc, and sweet potatoes.

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There Was No First Human

by cofty in

this excellent 4 minute video will help to clear up a few common misunderstandings regarding evolution.. ....

JustHuman14

Cofty, I was refering to the 10,000 years of the spiritual awakening of Homo Sapiens. Again according to mainstream scientists

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There Was No First Human

by cofty in

this excellent 4 minute video will help to clear up a few common misunderstandings regarding evolution.. ....

JustHuman14

Because Vivianne, according to Scientists, 10,000 years ago, it was the real leap for human evolution, when we started have the Neolithic settlements, and Homo Sapiens, started creating the first human society. But again that's what mainstream scientists believe, or, want us to believe!

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Why did Jesus tell the convict on the cross next to his, that he would be joining him in Heaven TODAY??

by Faithful Witness in

maybe a silly question, but i'm curious about this part of the story of christ's crucifixion, when the 1 thief challenges jesus to save himself and "us too" from their deaths, but the 2nd thief rebukes him and pleads with jesus... .

luke 23:42-43: and he said unto jesus, lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

and jesus said unto him, verily i say unto thee, today shalt thou be with me in paradise.. .

JustHuman14

WT, decided to add a comma in order to manipulate the Scriptures(as usual)in order to comply with their teachings...

First of all, the Ancient Hellenic language, and during the time of the Gospels as well has NO commas. It was written in CAPITAL letters and the words are continuing without space. So the text it is wriiten like that: ΑΛΗΘΩΣΣΥΛΕΓΩΣΗΜΕΡΩΝΘΕΛΕΙΣΕΙΣΘΑΙΜΕΘΕΜΟΥΕΝΤΟΠΑΡΑΔΙΣΩ....

So you can't add a comma there! But for the Orthodox Theology, Jesus, has being to Hades, when he died, and for 3 days He preached to the spirits of the dead that are prisoned there.