GromitSK

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  Atheist believe in aliens but not God?

  by StopTheTears in

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  if you are a professed atheist, i ask you the question: do you believe in aliens?

  could not god be an alien?

  how do you know that there is no alien life?

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  GromitSK

  I must confess to being a bit puzzled about the issue here. To me, it looks like this:

  Aliens: I assume what is meant here is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. Since we have proof of life here, whether we think it was 'created' by a deity or not, and it seems there is evidence of planets elsewhere with conditions which may support life, or at least stars which could produce such planets, it appears to me that the probability of life elsewhere can be estimated.

  So - we know it's possible, because we exist, therefore there must be a probability it also exists somewhere else, and given the size of the universe the probability seems 'high' to me. It doesn't seem unreasonable to me, on this basis to be of the opinion that aliens probably exist. Call it a belief if you like. Whether they have visited earth is a different question entirely.

  God: it seems to me that much of the evidence to support the existence of a god is interpretable in ways that don't imply a god too. So belief in god seems to me to be much more debatable.

  I don't see that belief in god and belief aliens are comparable, or that atheism and acceptance of life elsewhere in the universe are incompatible.
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  Verbatim.

  by braincleaned in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2a1sblgypm.

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  GromitSK

  Lmao
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  Absolute Proof the Watchtower and Governing Body are from God!

  by AuntConnie in

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  throwing a bone to my fellow jehovah's witnesses needing help defending the teaching god picked the watchtower back in 1919. just trying to make your life easier with a simple explanation, no more complex doctrines, ok.. http://witforjesus.org/images/jwarticles/jwparadox.jpg.

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  GromitSK

  @tiki - yeah, you can just feel the love can't you? Lol
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  Thinking of joining the Masons

  by greenhornet in

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  hello all, can anyone give me some inputt on the masons.

  im always leary about cults and joining groups.

  but the masons seem ok too me.. i want to join because of new freinds and just network with people.

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  GromitSK

  why not try it and if you don't like it, fade :)

  I don't know if it's still true but they used to have a reputation for being homophobic. One of my training buddies is a mason and he is a very 'normal' person as far as I can tell :)
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  Absolute Proof the Watchtower and Governing Body are from God!

  by AuntConnie in

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  throwing a bone to my fellow jehovah's witnesses needing help defending the teaching god picked the watchtower back in 1919. just trying to make your life easier with a simple explanation, no more complex doctrines, ok.. http://witforjesus.org/images/jwarticles/jwparadox.jpg.

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  GromitSK

  @auntconnie - your comments on research are spot-on IMHO. I wish it had been as easy to do in the 1980s when I came into contact with 'The Crap'. Though I was only in 'The Crap' for a few years, the impact on my life at the time was disastrous.
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  The Jehovah's Witness religion has gone for good !!!

  by snare&racket in

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  i am not sure how you all feel as we all left at different times for different reasons.... but this new bible seems to have put some final nails into a coffin that was once my jw life.

  the religion is so far and so different to the religion i grew up in that it has become something i feel no affiliation with anymore, no bond, no shared ideas or even sentimental views.

  different teachings on when the end is coming.

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  GromitSK

  I left 25 Years ago and it resonates with me too! :)
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  Musings about different types of atheist!

  by Seraphim23 in

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  a thought that occurs to me is that if one has the belief that all that is real is only explicable in terms of particles and forces, and that nothing exists that is not one of these, then good and bad doesnt exist either, the same would be true for any concept for that matter.

  or perhaps it is only true when reduced to the level of matter and forces, but without the moral force, meaning and purpose that such a materialist only description would entail.

  after all, if death is forever, which is materialist view, then what does it matter if a seventy or seven year old enters the grave?

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  Gravity is a fact surely? There are theories about how it works. I need to get out more I know.....
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  Musings about different types of atheist!

  by Seraphim23 in

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  a thought that occurs to me is that if one has the belief that all that is real is only explicable in terms of particles and forces, and that nothing exists that is not one of these, then good and bad doesnt exist either, the same would be true for any concept for that matter.

  or perhaps it is only true when reduced to the level of matter and forces, but without the moral force, meaning and purpose that such a materialist only description would entail.

  after all, if death is forever, which is materialist view, then what does it matter if a seventy or seven year old enters the grave?

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  GromitSK

  I know cofty can be a bit rough at times but I can't see any reason for not responding to a request to explain what one means by a specific statement. I don't understand what you meant either.
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  Musings about different types of atheist!

  by Seraphim23 in

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  a thought that occurs to me is that if one has the belief that all that is real is only explicable in terms of particles and forces, and that nothing exists that is not one of these, then good and bad doesnt exist either, the same would be true for any concept for that matter.

  or perhaps it is only true when reduced to the level of matter and forces, but without the moral force, meaning and purpose that such a materialist only description would entail.

  after all, if death is forever, which is materialist view, then what does it matter if a seventy or seven year old enters the grave?

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  GromitSK

  Maybe the rituals are more of a 'pascals wager' than real belief? :)
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  No named witness wants me to come back into truth but won't leave contact details

  by usualusername in

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  late last night i received the following message from the contact form on my website.

  this message was sent from the contact form on the today's pa website.

  organisation:.

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  GromitSK

  That looks like a mobile phone number to me - what happened when you tried it?

  maybe it's from jehovah? :)