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  JW Science Quote (2-19)

  by TD in

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  some of the science quotes of "celebrated jw scholars" need lengthy explanations, while others practically shimmer in the air by themselves.

  this week's installment in the science quotes of jehovah's witnesses is from the september 15, 1961 issue of the watchtower.

  it was from a time when jw writers were almost frantic in their desire to demonize blood transfusion.

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  TD, thanks again for your ongoing exposure of theocratic pseudo-science. This latest one is a great example of how JW epistemology is a matter of putting the cart before the horse. Rather than let naturalistic or scientific evidence "lead," theological interpretation "leads," and "evidence" is cherry-picked post priori to fit the pre-determined conclusion.

  Of course, the Society could simply say that refusing blood transfusion is a matter of faith and leave it at that, which shifts the grounds for debate to purely theological, but noooo! They trot out "scientific" evidence to prop up their credibility.
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  Watchtower May 15,2010 "Brothers Sow to the Spirit and Reach out"

  by hoser in

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  looks like they're almost begging for elders and ms's.

  take a fresh look.

  the need for overseers and ministerial servants is greater today than ever before.we.

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  Ironically, the congs with the most increase here in the US are the Spanish, yet they have the worst problem when it comes to lack of elders and MS's. Why? So many Mexican bros. are illegal. I learned from a relative a week or 2 ago (an elder in a Spanish cong) that they just got a letter from the branch saying its okay for bros here illegally to now carry the microphone.
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  my story.

  by xbro in

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  this is a truthfull account of what i went through,it is a work in progress and there is much mor to come.. all i can say to anyone reading this and are contemplating joining or are still a jehovahs witness is dont join and those that have,leave asap!.

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  Xbro: Welcome and thank you for sharing your deeply moving story. I wish I could go back in time and rescue you...
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  April KM Question Box

  by JWFreak in

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  C-O-N-T-R-O-L AT ALL TIMES...
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  Elders Wives

  by xelder in

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  i am sure that we individually are responsible for decisions and actions we take.

  we reap what we sow, and ultimately must face the personal responsibility.

  however, other factors do contribute.. i am a 5th generation jw, and my wife is a 4th generation jw.

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  Xelder, thank you for sharing that. You see, I, too, am an elder's wife. As I type this, he is out in FS, bless his well-meaning heart. I've woken up, he hasn't. Or, at least, he's in denial. He knows certain things are simply untrue, yet, as you describe, so much of his self-image and self-esteem are bound up in the position and, honestly, in the warm fuzzies he gets from being "self-sacrificing." (I make it sound like he's insincere and he's not). He's a great guy and our marriage is strong, so I'm not complaining. He doesn't bug me about my decision to become inactive. And, in return, I go to Sunday meetings with him so we're not completely divided.

  It's interesting that your wife started noticing problems with the "truth" before you. What got her thinking and how did she share it with you?
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  Watchtower's Official Policy Concerning College

  by VM44 in

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  2. scandals

  is it official watchtower policy that an elder cannot remain an elder if he allows his children to go to college?.

  also, is it official policy that a person cannot have "privileges" or even pioneer if they are attending college?.

  if it is, can someone post scans of the official boe letters stating the watchtower policy concerning college?.

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  These are not the policies. I have a close relation who is an elder and his daughter recently graduated with a B.A. from a 4 year school. I wonder if you are thinking about a letter to the BOE a while back that warned elders against actively/verbally "encouraging" college(?) in the face of the Society's rhetoric against it? I think the rationale (weak, admittedly) is that quietly letting your child go is one thing (your own business) but actively promoting it is another...

  Sort of "don't ask, don't tell."
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  Daily Mail UK Newspaper article The knock at the door that turned my parents into brainwashed fanatics - and nearly cost my life

  by Latte in

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  thursday, feb 11 2010 daily mail uk.

  the knock at the door that turned my parents into brainwashed fanatics - and nearly cost my life.

  read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1250078/the-knock-door-turned-parents-brainwashed-fanatics--nearly-cost-life.html#ixzz0feux4vdf.

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  I agree with AnnoMaly--some of the statements were clearly over the top. When ex-JWs make public statements that are simply wrong/exaggerated, it damages the credibility of even the accurate observations, and the response of Witnesses who read it will be, "Of course apostates are all a bunch of liars..."

  Besides, how dumb is it to imply that JWs have to dress like conservative Mennonites when there's a pic of a JW bride in a non-too-demure strapless gown? (Admittedly, she likely had no control over the pics the paper chose to use. Still...)
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  C.O. Talked about the fact that we may die in this system

  by life is to short in

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  being that my husband is still going to most of the meetings, i tied into the meeting sunday to see what the co had to say on his last day at the hall.

  one thing i found interesting is that we may die in this system.

  he said when he first learned the "truth" he just knew for sure that the system would end before he was baptized and he was so stressed out from it.

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  now, 37 years after the WT imprint on my brain, and with a new wife considerably younger than my 47 years

  Aussie: Is that her in your picture? Cute!!! Both of you, actually...
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  Did You Know A Lot Of "Very Intelligent" JWs?

  by minimus in

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  in my lifetime of knowing jehovah's witnesses, i recognized very few as being extremely intelligent.

  most seemed to just go along with the program.. i noticed we have a number of "very intelligent" exjws here..

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  Interesting posts. I think the intelligence level has no correlation with being a Witness. In fact, highly intelligent people are more likely to rationalize baseless beliefs through sophisticated mental gymnastics. I know, I was raised by one. The other tactic used by intelligent JWs is a "don't ask, don't tell" policy. They sense something is amiss but won't address it, preferring to focus on other things.

  I think someone made a great point about the combination of intelligence and integrity being necessary to force action in some JWs. It's a "theocratically deadly" mixture.
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  C.O. Talked about the fact that we may die in this system

  by life is to short in

  1. jw
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  being that my husband is still going to most of the meetings, i tied into the meeting sunday to see what the co had to say on his last day at the hall.

  one thing i found interesting is that we may die in this system.

  he said when he first learned the "truth" he just knew for sure that the system would end before he was baptized and he was so stressed out from it.

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  The CO said does this mean that Jehovah's Witnesses were wrong? NO!!! Jehovah is not slow with what he promised (Habakkuk 2:3).

  I would raise my hand and ask, "So what would being wrong look like then?"