This is a good article but the quote about parents holding a wake for a daughter when she was disfellowshipped is inaccurate enough to discredit the whole thing in the eyes of most JWs. Witnesses do not hold wakes, as anyone associated knows, and so including a pull-out box with that kind of quote is really problematic. I wish reporters would check their facts.
Cadellin
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The PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER, Sunday October 6, 2019
by lastmanstanding inbig article.. https://www.inquirer.com/news/inq/jehovahs-witnesses-silent-history-child-sex-abuse-20180425.html.
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November 2019 Watchtower (Would love to hear the comments in the hall)
by pleaseresearch infrom the november 2019 watchtower study edition.. how many of you would like to know what the brothers and sisters would respond to this question.
also, if you went into a hall how would you like to respond to the question.. 8. how should we respond to lies?.
8 satan, “the father of the lie,” uses those under his control to spread lies about jehovah and about our brothers and sisters.
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Cadellin
Magnum says, "they're implying that everything that "apostates" say is a lie."
Very true but even more--they also imply that ANYTHING negative or critical of JW or the WBTS on the media is a lie, by its very nature of being negative or critical. So the response, at seeing anything negative or critical is "critical = apostates = lies." This shuts down the whole critical thinking process (assuming the viewer has much of one to begin with).
As far as the Genesis account--YES! No one can explain how it is that the three promises Satan makes to Eve were ALL TRUE! The society has not published anything acknowledging or explaining that!!
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Sex before marriage.
by nicolaou inmrs nic' and i were 16 and 18 years old respectively when we first met at a circuit assembly in corby.
three years later we were married.
we've had a great time, we're very lucky but looking back i can see how crazy it is to put that pressure to marry on teenagers.
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Cadellin
There was a sister who told us by way of conversation that her boys were not interested in girls.
Zeb--Well, maybe they weren't! I suspect there are numerous JW boys who play for the other team...
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Ruin those Ruining th Earth
by peacefulpete init has been mentioned before but since we have been discussing environmental issues on another thread, i thought it might be timely to discuss rev 11:18 which has recently become a popular text for those christians concerned about environmental threats of pollution and climate change.
is this passage being interpreted correctly?
did the writer somehow anticipate the modern environmental situation, or did he intend something more in keeping with the bible's general concerns of morality and sin?.
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Cadellin
Witnesses like to apply it to ecological ruin, as if the Bible was predicting the environmental crisis we are currently in. However, the marginal reference in the NWT to Rev. 11:18 is to Gen. 6:11: 1 But the earth had become ruined in the sight of the true God, and the earth was filled with violence.
So "ruined" refers to being ruined by violence, which aligns with the idea of "corrupt" or "corruption" as already mentioned and not with ecological ruination. The JW misinterpretation of Rev. 11:18 was one of the final straws that broke my publisher's back. The last time I was out in field service, I read that scripture at the door and recited the orthodoxy about how the Bible was predicting the ecological ruination we see around us, even though I knew that was an eisegetical error. My conscience killed me afterward and I thought to myself--never again.
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Article: Telegraph-JW agrees not to show son religious cartoons because of risk of 'Emotional Damage'
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/11/jehovahs-witness-agrees-not-show-son-religious-cartoons-risk/?wt.mc_id=tmg_share_fb.
a jehovah's witness has agreed not to show his son religious cartoons and has been banned from taking the six-year-old to some church events because it could cause him "emotional damage".
the man is embroiled in a family court dispute with his estranged wife and has been barred by a court from taking the little boy to jehovah's witness assemblies, annual conventions and memorials.. district judge malcolm dodds also said that the father had agreed not to show his son "jehovah's witness cartoons", a decision he described as "wise".
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Cadellin
I am no JW apologist but any time you have a government entity deciding how much a parent can, well, parent a child, especially in matters as personal as religious belief, is disconcerting.Will the judge next require a Jewish parent to include Christmas along with Hannukah because the child might suffer emotional damage? It's the principal--some things are none of a government's business.
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Personal story of bethel, sexual abuse and child baptism
by GetMeOutofHere inborn into a strong jw family in the early 80s.
my father died when i was 4 and that left a huge emotional scar on my tender mind.
with my mother, i went to live with family members and was sexually abused between 4 and 10. he was an ms but when elders later found out, all that happened was he got his privileges removed.
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Cadellin
Welcome! You are not alone, nor are you crazy. When I was leaving, I felt both alone and that I might be crazy, since so many of the intelligent people around me couldn't see the lies and other issues. You do have options, other than being DF'd or continuing PIMO. That is, the Fade. Many of us have done that to good success, but it is a very slow process (usually). Have a JW wife will make it a bit harder, but still not impossible. At any rate, take baby steps.
Also, do get professional help. The fact that you think you might have "enjoyed" aspects of the abuse does NOT mean you were complicit or to blame or guilty in any way shape or form. YOU were the victim. And the therapist will also help you deal with leaving the religion. I know that I went into therapy as I left and it was one of the best decisions I made. You have started a difficult and painful journey but there is light ahead...
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GB wifes
by asp59 inwith the talks abouth tight pants in men and now samuel herd abouth fat women are better then fit .
this are topics women talk abouth.
you think its the gb wifes running the show now?.
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Cadellin
Riiiight...That's the wife's primary duty. Cook and clean. Nice.
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CHILD MOLESTATION: How have they been able to hide it for so long?
by Zoos ini was in the organization until 2011. .
i n-e-v-e-r heard of this problem.
not even a whisper.
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Cadellin
I'm not sure how you define "rampant," but the Australian Royal Commission uncovered the fact that the Aust. branch had 1,000+ reports in the course of 50 years or so. Not sure what historic publisher numbers are but the most recent peak was 68,000, so averaging way less than that in terms of total numbers.
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Yes. We are in the throes of a change that will make life very, very hard for most life on this planet. And it's not just another "doomsday cult," but sound science. Period.
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Head Coverings for Women
by Diogenesister inwatchtower's ignorance around the historical background to many biblical directives has had a very negative effect on the lives of witnesses.. for instance paul said women should cover their heads because in corinth prostitutes walked the streets plying for business with their heads uncovered.
hence head coverings were never a symbol of headship but a directive very specific to that period, as was the blood directive!!.
watchtower leaders have been lawyers, businessmen, civil servants and door-to-door book salesmen, never, ever historians or biblical scholars.
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Christian Guy--Excellent post! I enjoyed your sound reasoning and learned some new things.