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Published Thursday
October 23, 2003
Can I get a Witness?
By Wendy Townley
Bellevue Leader staff writer
The dirt caked beneath Chelsea Brown's fingernails matched the steaming cup of coffee inside a white Styrofoam cup she held with red, chapped hands.
This was a down time for Brown, a 16-year-old Jehovah Witness. She and teens like her, along with adults of all ages, descended upon the northeast corner of 36th Street and Cornhusker Road for five consecutive days last week, building a Kingdom Hall worship facility.
Brown and her parents, James and Ruth Brown of Bellevue, were among the 600 volunteers from Nebraska and South Dakota who helped build the 5,455-square-foot facility.
It's the second facility of its kind in Bellevue. A Kingdom Hall was built 20 years ago near 26th Street and Bryan Avenue in just two days.
Jack Wilson, left, attaches the top portion of a window inside the Jehovah's Witness Kingdom Hall at 36th Street and Cornhusker Road. Volunteers such as Nathan McDaniel, far right, and Dan Ludlow from around the Midwest helped with the "quick build." The worship hall took five days to build.
The new Kingdom Hall will serve upwards of 160 Witnesses from the area. Volunteers who helped with the project, which saved $500,000 in labor, traveled from Missouri, Minnesota, South Dakota, Iowa and Nebraska. For the five-plus days they're in Bellevue, the out-of-town volunteers either stayed in hotels or the homes of other Witnesses.
"In many ways, we're like a big family," said Javan Allen, a Witness covered in sawdust Wednesday morning, the first day of the "quick build," as the project is known. "The satisfaction from that really drives these workers."
The work site's volunteers, who occasionally paused for prayer and piped spiritual music through several freestanding speakers, come together for each quick build even though they won't regularly attend services at the facility. Most have traveled from other regions around the Midwest.
In the past 13 years, 60 Kingdom Halls have sprouted from the ground in Nebraska, Iowa, Kansas, South Dakota and Minnesota.
The volunteers are often skilled at building construction. Some have worked on large job sites before; for others, working shoulder-to-shoulder with fellow volunteers is something new.
"The electricians, for example, are used to working by themselves," Allen said. "But here, they all have to work hand-in-hand. They truly do get along and have a great respect for one another."
At 16, Chelsea Brown's experience in construction has been somewhat limited to the quick builds. Wearing a tool belt heavy with hammers, pliers and screwdrivers, Brown said she has kept busy grabbing wood and other materials for the volunteers.
"We're all just the gophers," Brown said of the other teenagers at the work site. "We're here to do whatever they need us to do."
Planning for the new facility began nearly two years ago. After scouting the Bellevue area, Dennis Turnbull, chairman of the regional building committee, and other Witnesses landed their eyes on the 36th and Cornhusker site.
They contacted city officials, traveling through the proper channels to obtain approval and permits. The city?s chief building official, Steve Carmichael, said the city maintains a "high amount of contact" with the projects' general contractors, many of whom began the initial prep work Aug. 18.
"They're very skilled in what they do," Carmichael said. "It's like putting Legos together for these guys; they just know how it goes."
The Witnesses and city officials map out the project well in advance. The quick build's quick pace keeps city officials busy, checking off accomplished parts of the project every day.
"They know exactly what they're going to need and where they need to be," Carmichael said. "It's a unique example of how individuals can come together and accomplish a goal in a rapid amount of time."
Hammers, nails, wood and shingles aren't the only necessary tools of this project. Food is a must, too, which is why the Witnesses provide the volunteers -- all 500 of them -- three meals a day during the quick build.
It's not an easy task, said Judy Morrison, one of the volunteers behind the massive meal effort.
Upwards of $7,000 of food was purchased for the five-day project. Morrison said she and other volunteers working in the work site's food trailer, which serves as a makeshift kitchen, designs meals that are easy and tasty.
On Wednesday, for example, the 15-plus volunteers were chopping vegetables for a pasta salad. Also on the menu for Wednesday's lunch: Philly steak sandwiches. Other meals last week included enchiladas, lasagna, rotisserie chicken and beef stew.
This is Morrison's eighth consecutive year helping with a quick build.
"Why do I do it? Because I love it," Morrison said with a big grin, wearing an apron and trying to keep warm next to a massive steel stove. "There is so much love and so much joy. And seeing all of us working together, there's absolute love between them."

It's getting old. So you built a hall and everyone got together. It means jack if your going to knowingly welcome child molesters into it and when they're found out just hush it up.

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Ignored One.

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Blount Co. Foster Couple Says Child was Taken over Religion

by ignored_one in

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erm, nevermind.

go see this thread:.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/14/60930/1.ashx .

ignored_one

Erm, nevermind. Go see this thread:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/14/60930/1.ashx

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Ignored One.

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"God in the Whitehouse"

by Emma in

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this is an interesting article from information clearinghouse.. http://www.orion-online.net/vnews/display.v/art/2003/10/22/3f95c469462ed

ignored_one

Poor God. What to do......What to do????

If I was God i'd be HBH (Home but Hiding).

Oh wait.... he's been doing that for quite a while now.

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Ignored One.

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My online debate with a few JWs

by Wolfgirl in

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the other day, i asked for help finding some info regarding the flip-flops on conscientious objecting.

a big thank you to those who helped me out.. quick background:.

i'm a star wars fan.

ignored_one

I noticed Reed shut up pretty quickly. How does basically stating beliefs 'cheapen' them? Or was it he just realised how dumb their beliefs actually are.

http://www.watchtower.org/

Only trust official information about Jehovah's Witnesses; the above link will give you plenty, and it will explain my beliefs, regardless of what organization they fall under. Thank you for your interest, but i cannot bring myself to discuss this here.

Isn't he basically saying I belive whatever I'm told? Scary.

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Ignored One.

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ebay: what have you bought/sold

by RAYZORBLADE in

yes, i know....there've been topics started discussed about ebay.. i've had an absolute blast with it as of recent.. what have i bought lately?.

a yellow dial telephone in excellent condition (from manitoba).

several 45's (vinyl records).. i'm amazed at what you can find on there.

ignored_one

I sold some old videos. Made about £45 overall. I'm replacing them with DVD versions.

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Ignored One.

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well ive been studying with the jehovah witness for about 3 yrs now and im really thinking about making myself a publisher and i want to know is this website real and why are people talking about hiding their names what are they hiding it for shouldnt you be happy that youre studying with the jw and the jehovah called on you.

and what's up with all the swearing havent you thought about keeping up good lanquage in case someone visits this site and see that and whats up with the half naked pictures of women whats really going on

ignored_one

Big Tex,

I was thinking the same thing. 'Sweet' Sally, about as sweet as arsenic. Glad I got away from self righteous haughty bigots such as herself.

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Ignored One.

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Power of prayer found wanting in hospital trial

by ignored_one in

unfortunately you have to register to view the page but searching for 'prayer' at www.telegraph.co.uk will find the story.. power of prayer found wanting in hospital trial.

by jonathan petre, religion correspondent.

(filed: 15/10/2003) .

ignored_one

Unfortunately you have to register to view the page but searching for 'prayer' at www.telegraph.co.uk will find the story.

Power of prayer found wanting in hospital trial
By Jonathan Petre, Religion Correspondent
(Filed: 15/10/2003)
The biggest scientific experiment on prayer has failed to find any evidence that it helps to heal the sick.
Doctors in the United States will today disclose that heart patients who were prayed for by groups of strangers recovered from surgery at the same rate as those who were not.
The three-year study, led by cardiologists from Duke University Medical Centre in North Carolina, involved 750 patients in nine hospitals and 12 prayer groups around the world, from Christians in Manchester to Buddhists in Nepal.
Earlier, less extensive, research suggested prayer could have a measurably beneficial effect.
But the experiment, which will be detailed in a BBC2 Everyman documentary to be broadcast next week, was criticised as crude by Church leaders. The Bishop of Durham, the Rt Rev Tom Wright, said: "Prayer is not a penny-in-the-slot machine. You can't just put in a coin and get out a chocolate.
"This is like setting an exam for God to see if God will pass it or not."
He said both the Old and New Testaments said "very clearly" that you must not put God to the test. The new research, dubbed the Mantra project, was led by Dr Mitch Krucoff, a cardiologist, whose pilot studies had led him to believe that prayer could have measurably beneficial effects.
Over three years, 750 patients awaiting angioplasty, a procedure to clear obstructions from their arteries, were recruited for the experiment.
Names selected at random by a computer were sent to the 12 prayer groups, who began praying immediately for their recovery. Neither the hospital staff nor the patients and their relatives knew who was being prayed for.
The prayer groups included American Christian mothers, nuns in a Carmelite convent in Baltimore, Sufi Muslims, Buddhist monks in Nepal and English doctors and medical students in Manchester. Prayers were even e-mailed to Jerusalem and placed in the Wailing Wall.
An analysis of the results found that there were no significant differences in the recovery and health of the patients who were prayed for and those who were not.
The Rev Leslie Francis, professor of practical theology at the University of Wales, said two major studies, in 1988 and 1999, had found that prayer had a beneficial effect.
"In medical research one expects divergent results, so it is premature to affirm or dismiss the power of prayer in healing," he said. "But if the pharmaceutical industry was getting these sorts of results they would be investing a great of money in research."
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Ignored One.

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Seen any good movies lately?

by StinkyPantz in

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the husband and i went to see "house of the dead" the other night, and 30 minutes into it we had to leave because it was so horrible.

rarely have i seen such bad acting outside of a highschool drama performance, and i have never left during a movie.. thing is, i love going to the movies, so it was a major disappointment.

have you seen any good ones lately?

ignored_one

Megadude,

I check Rotten Tomatoes all the time.

Wasn't there one that covered album reviews as well? I can't find it anywhere.

Probably go see Kill Bill this weekend. Last film I saw was Once Upon a Time in Mexico and enjoyed it.

Good films I've seen this year:

City of God.

Man of the Year.

Dark Water.

The Suicide Club

Battle Royale.

Doh, remembered some more.

Swimming Pool

Calender Girls

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Ignored One.

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Should Foster Children Be Forced to Attend the Meetings?

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Blount Co. Foster Couple Says Child was Taken over Religion

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Any of you getting bored of reading this sorta stuff?

ignored_one

Blount Co. Foster Couple Says Child was Taken over Religion

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"God in the Whitehouse"

ignored_one

My online debate with a few JWs

ignored_one

ebay: what have you bought/sold

ignored_one

Is this for real

ignored_one

Power of prayer found wanting in hospital trial

ignored_one

Seen any good movies lately?

ignored_one