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  Babylon the Great

  by Godlyman in

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  do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

  inquiring minds want to know .

  estephan.

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  I'm sorry Guess but didnt Britain in the early 20th century help the jews to get Jerusalem back and later in 1967? Is not America strongly supportive of jews keeping power in the middle east?
  
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  Did YOU have 'princes' in YOUR congregation?

  by BoogerMan in

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  lol .

  w54 5/1 p. 277 par.

  17 - some of the “great crowd” are now serving in position of “princes,” .

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  Oh you must be talking about the Dutch brother who was wealthy in my area ,he bought some land for a kingdom hall but sub divided some of it for private homes and made out to the authorities it was like a village for parishoners but nearly all were sold to worldly people.

  But the hall was built next door, this generous brother was made an elder. Oh did I forget to tell you he molested his daughter for years. Ah the WTS making the most of "unrighteous riches".

  The story has a good end though the WTS has ownership of the hall and he died not many years later of Asbestos he breathed in .
  
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  Babylon the Great

  by Godlyman in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

  inquiring minds want to know .

  estephan.

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  wozza

  I definitely think Vanderhoven7 is winning this round with Fisherman.

  When I was in I had naughty thoughts of either Jerusalem being babylon the great ,seems more logical for the people of the times and into the future.

  The WTS points to the Religions of this world as BTG ,and says the Political system and the Financial system are a part of the triad of Satan ,but if you look at all of them they have always been whores as a triad. Why can't Babylon the great be them riding the world empire of ,say ,Science and technology ?

  Surely Science and technology could be considered a great force and powerful giving the atom bomb and war tools that bring so much misery to so many people. Amongst them are brilliant minds but they can't seem to work out that they are whoring their skills for prestige and fame!

  Some may defend them claiming they are saving many thru scientific discoveries ,but is this not just the make-up of a whore ,painting up something insidiously diseased to be attractive? (Oops maybe Science is Babylon)
  

  OK so before you think I'm nuts ,I was trying to demonstrate how flexible the bible is to change any real truthful meaning, at least that was my own original thoughts ,not like the WTS and the likes of them stealing others religious ideas .
  
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  Nephilim...Only desired females

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  2. bible

  bible questions answered.

  who were the nephilim?.

  the bible account says that “the sons of the true god began to notice that the daughters of men were beautiful.” (genesis 6:2) those ‘sons of god’ were actually spirit creatures who rebelled against god when they “forsook their own proper dwelling place” in heaven, materialized human bodies, and “began taking as wives all whom they chose.”​—jude 6; genesis 6:2.. the hybrids born from this unnatural union were no ordinary children.

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  wozza

  So the spirits in heaven were around for the creation of people and yet it took all that time to suddenly " notice " the women on earth ? Sounds like a childs story ,perhaps the groaning the old witnesses heard was the returned spirits playing with each others willies!
  
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  1975 selling of houses

  by Paul Bonanno in

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  as 1975 was approaching, many witnesses sold their property.

  do you know about specific cases that are willing to share their experience of doing so?.

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  wozza

  If I had known about and read that 1969 Awake I never would have become a witness. My first study was in about 1974 with an elder and he had the faith in 1975 ,so when I asked him about the 1975 teaching he was a bit cagey at first but said that he thought it would happen then.

  I said my soon to be MIL said nobody knows the day or hour ,he was awkward about this and I quit my study then but was sucked in later because my wife became a JW. But that Awake would have sealed it forever if I had known .

  And another thing I remember is that at the time a lot of brothers were pedalling Life insurance for a living ,if they believed in 1975 they must have had good chuckle amongst themselves for those poor bastards about to die.
  
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  Souls on Ice

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
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  you may have seen the story of the couple who just gave birth to twins who developed from embryos frozen for 30 years.

  i'm delighted for the parents and hope the twins grow to be healthy.

  it does pose some questions for those who insist embryos are in fact humans with souls.

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  Which leads to what if someone is dying passes and then goes through a cryogenic process, does the spirit get locked in and frozen in time if the process is done 13 seconds (for example) after the last breath?

  What if the process was late by 4 seconds and the spirit leaves to go to god ,does it crave to go back to the body later?
  
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  Souls on Ice

  by peacefulpete in

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  you may have seen the story of the couple who just gave birth to twins who developed from embryos frozen for 30 years.

  i'm delighted for the parents and hope the twins grow to be healthy.

  it does pose some questions for those who insist embryos are in fact humans with souls.

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  wozza

  So would the soul be created in the embryo at the meeting of the sperm and egg ,or when the embryo starts multiplying ,or when the eventual feotus breaths it's first breath ?
  

  Or perhaps the soul is the fertilized egg and has no spirit so therefore could be considered not a human life?
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  Noah's Ark - Kentucky

  by BoogerMan in

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  2. friends

  regardless of belief/non-belief in the bible account, why is the ark nearly always depicted by both believers & non-believers as a huge boat, with a rounded hull & stern, and a tapered bow?

  https://arkencounter.com/ .

  the ark was crate shaped according to the measurements.

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  @Stephane Laliberti

  " It just amazes me how JWs are almost offended at the sight of a boat shaped arc because that's not the way its been drawn by Watchtower artists."

  Well they won't be too shocked at the old WT pictures of the snake in the garden of Eden .........it had legs according to WT artists
  
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  Souls on Ice

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you may have seen the story of the couple who just gave birth to twins who developed from embryos frozen for 30 years.

  i'm delighted for the parents and hope the twins grow to be healthy.

  it does pose some questions for those who insist embryos are in fact humans with souls.

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  Good question PP
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  List of Things We Were NOT Allowed To Do as JW's

  by Sea Breeze in

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  here's my list of jw no-no's as i recall: .

  1. no giving or accepting valentine candy for students.

  2. no going to home coming football games.

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  wozza

  Rattigan

  In the past here it was seen as like serving in the military but with a little grayness ,since they did not carry.

  These days the police carry guns all the time so I am not sure whether there are still JW police officers.

  It's interesting to note that the society used this particular brothers knowlege and involvement to assist them in the "Security" department at assemblies!