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  I am out of here

  by Aussie Oz in

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  this place has become far to jw ish for my liking.. free expression and rights to make reply are shut down by those who hold the key.. this forum is turning into an uber christian outreach program with those who take umbridge to them getting locked and deleted threads.

  it would perhaps not be so bad if the moderators actually communicated to people such as myself rather than cold cutting.

  they complain when we make a public outcry and tell us it belongs in a private message, yet cannot see 'the straw in their own eye' and do not use the private messages to communicate why they have done what they do.

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  wozza

  Hi Ozzie Oz

  Be a shame to leave it serves only to titillate the ego of the mod gone wrong.

  This happened to me with a mod from our own country ,he is just a fruit loop to me ,cut out my posts etc and yet when I queried by PM why I then got the picture he was mis understanding my public comments completely ,and when I tried to explain my true meaning he balked at it all.

  He is egocentric to me and probably a little mentally challenged so let him be I eventually thought ....but it does get up your nose does'nt it?

  I've read text here with bad swearing and thought that this seems acceptable at times and yet my meagre comments were not lewd and yet they were judged and in turn by my topic being taken off. it seemed to me that I was being treated like a little boy .

  Why one guy in America ,well known , got banned for hosing down some pesky JW's who came to his door ,should have seen the mods perform then....but hey most of are still here even though the mods are being the GB all over again.

  PM me when you can nice to talk to another ex aldinga-rite
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  The secret of how Christianity spread across the world

  by Terry in

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  what i am going to say may sound nasty and mean-spirited.

  i assure you it is not intended in that tone.. men are power seekers and control freaks.

  without using women as drones to do the grunt work of religion.

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  Phew this is a hot one too handle ,maybe because my nurturing mother inculcated my response into me
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  Child Abuse Policy question re: credible evidence

  by Open mind in

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  i'm familiar with the two witness rule and just read that it still stands in the new elder's book.. .

  if a child accuses someone of sexual abuse:.

  1. call the branch.

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  wozza

  I've had an elder ,when put on the spot, admit that DNA evidence was admissable as a witness but he had to go away and check this out . But when challenged on where he got this information he was pressed to tell me where , but it is not in any of the societies literature as far as I know , so it stands that they twist and turn and have their own opinions when the need calls for it and the society leaves elders with no hard direction except to decieve.

  The two witness rule is shot down with one scripture in the old testament ,I think in Leviticus somewhere where it talks about a woman in the field who is raped ,goes to the city and tells of her ordeal and the perpetrator is put to death on her evidence only (if other workers were in the field with her surely they would have come to here aid or reported the incident but the bible says nothing of tis and takes the victims word for it) don't have a bible here but someone here will find the account. I've put this to the society and their answer was to disfellowship me!

  To see what the societies way of handling things is ,consider my ex wifes case where the elders said they carefully looked for evidence and witnesses but found none ,but when I asked them whether they handled things like the police do by questioning possible witnesses, they had to stay silent as to whether they had questioned my ex's siblings!!!!!! They had not even done this and took the word of her molestor father ,pathetic religion and human beings that are running it!!

  Hope someone can find that scripture ,I posted about it before but not being a student of the bible any more I just can't remember it,sorry.
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  What would you ask Satan?

  by frigginconfused in

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  if you could send in questions to the news media for an interview with the devil what would you ask him?

  no sarcasm please.

  this is meant to be a serious topic..

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  Why did you let the Catholic Church set which books got put into the Bible ..............oh sorry that was God was'nt it?
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  what`s the most embarrassing thing that happend to you as a jw?

  by Adrianoblue in

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  once two brothers convinced me to pop up at a wedding, just to gratulate them.

  i bumbed into the 2 brother just by coincidence on the street.

  i was wearing a leather biker jacket and tracksuit pants.

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  1 :Had the book study in my home ,was asked to open the meeting in prayer , stood up did prayer , opened my eyes to see my bright red underware through my fully open fly for all to see - and they did!

  2 : At another book study ,gave prayer ,sat down, farted and then proceeded to blow snot out my nose when I tried to restrain my laughter _ I'm still dying over that one !

  3; Again at a book study ,this time reading the Live forever book , at the the part where it said that Jehovah has no "head" ,I just burst out laughing and could'nt stop - had to leave the room for the rest of the meeting!
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  Circle or Sphere ?

  by wozza in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jw's teach that the bible is correct and scientific like when it uses the expression "the circle of the earth" ,and use this to prop their beliefs.. i wonder if in the original writings where this scripture is ,whether the term circle meant exactly that ,a flat object round in shape ,.

  or if they meant a sphere .

  surely the people around at the time of writing the scripture had the concept of the difference between a sphere and a circular flat object .. if that's the case and the language used meant only a flat round object and not a sphere ,why are the wts teaching that this is evidence that people can have confidence in the bible as gods word because it was scientifically correct thousands of years ago?

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  fascinating stuff.

  The trouble I had as a JW with this scripture was whether the hebrew words were different and they are (thanks Leolaia)

  I put my self back in time and consider what a person would see standing on a high mountain ,say , with plains all about and observe what the horizon looks like - the same as today - a circular horizon line returning on both sides to behind me.

  This to me says the scripture in the the bible is only an observation of a ordinary man rather than an inspired by god statement which is penned by this man for future generations to go "ooooh aaaaah this really is evidence that the bible is from god .

  I'm not trying to attack the beliefs of anyone here but just reason on what has been pushed by the WTS as evidence of god and that they are his representatives ,when really one has to look at the text ,question it and ask if the WTS is wrong on this ,how many other things are they teaching are wrong? Keeping in mind that their "circle of the earth teaching is always used when studying with new people to impress upon them that they are finally finding "the truth " of life from the WTS.
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  Circle or Sphere ?

  by wozza in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jw's teach that the bible is correct and scientific like when it uses the expression "the circle of the earth" ,and use this to prop their beliefs.. i wonder if in the original writings where this scripture is ,whether the term circle meant exactly that ,a flat object round in shape ,.

  or if they meant a sphere .

  surely the people around at the time of writing the scripture had the concept of the difference between a sphere and a circular flat object .. if that's the case and the language used meant only a flat round object and not a sphere ,why are the wts teaching that this is evidence that people can have confidence in the bible as gods word because it was scientifically correct thousands of years ago?

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  I only thought of this while reading another post ,actually when I was in I had my niggling doubts on this topic but it's funny how when you're a JW ,the brain is trained to discount reasoning on things as a dangerous thing.
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  Circle or Sphere ?

  by wozza in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jw's teach that the bible is correct and scientific like when it uses the expression "the circle of the earth" ,and use this to prop their beliefs.. i wonder if in the original writings where this scripture is ,whether the term circle meant exactly that ,a flat object round in shape ,.

  or if they meant a sphere .

  surely the people around at the time of writing the scripture had the concept of the difference between a sphere and a circular flat object .. if that's the case and the language used meant only a flat round object and not a sphere ,why are the wts teaching that this is evidence that people can have confidence in the bible as gods word because it was scientifically correct thousands of years ago?

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  wozza

  JW's teach that the bible is correct and scientific like when it uses the expression "the CIRCLE of the earth" ,and use this to prop their beliefs.

  I wonder if in the original writings where this scripture is ,whether the term circle meant exactly that ,a flat object round in shape ,

  OR if they meant a SPHERE . Surely the people around at the time of writing the scripture had the concept of the difference between a sphere and a circular flat object .

  If that's the case and the language used meant only a flat round object and not a sphere ,why are the WTS teaching that this is evidence that people can have confidence in the bible as gods word because it was scientifically correct thousands of years ago? Are they are no different then than the Catholic church in the days of Galileo refuting his observation ,and continued to do so after his death.
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  Evidence that God hates cats

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

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  i, for one, sensed that cats were from the devil ever since that demon-cat, toonces, was shown driving an automobile on live tv.. (orange feline, 2/3 of the way down on the right side, getting his.).

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  Oops sorry .....suppose I better say something now ,the trigger fingeralways gets twitchy when I think of cats.

  Used to love teasing the sisters that were cat lovers by saying that the cat was the only creature that Satan was allowed to create. God sometimes I could just make the one here vanish if I had some of those apostate demonz powers
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  Evidence that God hates cats

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

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  i, for one, sensed that cats were from the devil ever since that demon-cat, toonces, was shown driving an automobile on live tv.. (orange feline, 2/3 of the way down on the right side, getting his.).

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