Posts by Morbidzbaby

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For those who have been pregnant....

by freshstart in

i wish i could be one those women who absolutely love pregnancy, i really do.

but i honestly don't care for it at all.

it was the same with my first pregnancy.

Morbidzbaby

My first pregnancies were marked with horrible depression...I only had morning sickness a couple of times with each. Later on as they progressed and my babies got heavier, I did end up wracked with pains and aches and not being able to sleep comfortably (or sleep at all). This time around, I'm not depressed, but I had morning sickness like there was no tomorrow. Even hitting the second trimester didn't help at all. Now I'm in my third and still throw up once a week. Yay. And the aches and pains are starting in earnest lol.

I try my best to enjoy being pregnant...Feeling my baby move and respond when I talk, etc. But there's a lot of unpleasantness that goes along with it.

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Hardest most awkward parts of being mentally out but physically in

by BU2B in

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i am still physically in but am completely out mentally.. i was curious for those who spent some time in the borg while being mentally out or are still in that position, what is the worst, hardest or most awkward parts... for me i intensly dislike attending the meetings however its bearable as i can just let my mind wander, but field service is awful.

i cannot try to bring someone in to a group that i am trying to plot a way out of.

so now i try my best to either spend the day driving around to others fruitless rv's (we have somewhat rural territory) or eating out at an extended breakfast or if door to door cannot be avoided, i try to work alone and not ring bells.

Morbidzbaby

I got incredibly busy. I took on more work, made plans outside the hall on meeting days/nights that I "just couldn't break", etc.

One thing I definitely did was quit going out in service. Seriously. If you have to cut back here and there until you're no longer going out at all, then do so, but by even being seen out with the JW's, you're identifying yourself to people as "with them". Say you're doing letter writing, making phone calls, etc...and then don't do it. Get some lists of names, numbers, and addresses to take home and then just don't do it. Claim you're informal witnessing...eventually, get yourself down to 1 hour a month (whether it's true or not is up to you).

If you're asked what's wrong, claim depression or discouragement. The one thing they hate having to deal with is a sad JW because it makes them uncomfortable...they're supposed to be the happiest people on earth, remember? The fact that someone in the flock is depressed is uncomfortable for them...and they won't force the issue. That's a great way to get out of going to meetings (along with work).

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Does it matter if they're happy?

by Zico in

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this is something i am conflicted about.. since leaving the jw religion, i have generally thought there are many jws i should leave alone.

if they are happy in the religion, i reasoned, why try to force a change in their beliefs, particularly among those older jws who have spent so long serving the wts?

certainly, i'd be willing to help any jw who clearly didn't seem to fit the religion, or couldn't live up to its rules, but there are some jws who i think would be happier in than they would be without it.. otoh, i have been thinking recently, that these jws by their presence in the religion, are providing the power to the society that allows them to damage/ruin so many other jws lives, so perhaps it doesn't matter what one jws personal situation is, perhaps i should be trying to 'free' everyone i can in an attempt to contribute to the society's eventual downfall.. what are your opinions on this?.

Morbidzbaby

I have the same philosophy as undercover, essentially. I have family still in, but if that's what floats their boat, there's nothing I can do and I won't be the antagonist in the situation. However, if they think that just because I'm inactive that I need to be beaten over the head with Watchtower theology, I WILL defend my stance and call their crap to attention.

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Unexpected call from my JW Sister - Unbelievable Hypocrisy!

by chichimama_2 in

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i posted a long experience earlier today along with an email letter from my sister.

sent to me back in january informing me she was going to be shunning me.. had not heard a word from her for 6 months then.

my sister called out of the blue one evening last month.

Morbidzbaby

It still amazes me that when something like this happens, they cannot see their hypocrisy. Associating with you at a family reunion is not "necessary family business". Therefore, she would have to explain why she is shunning you. This causes discomfort and a bad name for the org in the eyes of non-JWs. So what is she to do? Bravely uphold her organization's standards that are in no way based on the Bible? Or pretend like she hasn't been ignorning you for half a year in order to make HERSELF more comfortable?

Meh. She chose to just not go. Make sure you're there every year so that the family can see that she isn't going BECAUSE you're there and she isn't "allowed" to speak to you. The best anti-witness is the one she is giving all on her own.

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Sunday's Drama @ convention!!! OMG!!!

by itscrap&theyknowit! in

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the drama -- i basically laughed hysterically!

i guess marriages are breaking up left and right within the organization.

a couple got married young.

Morbidzbaby

LostGen~ There is more unhappiness in JW marriages in the past few years according to what I've observed in the areas I've lived. More separations and divorces...and a lot of them brought about because the WIFE is the one who either cheats or leaves. That speaks volumes to me.

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I need movie ideas (My wife is in Salt Lake attending the Sparlock Convention)

by I quit! in

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i'm on my own for a week while my wife is in utah.

i have some wild and crazy things planned but i need help with my movie selection.

last night i watched "in darknes" a very good move.

Morbidzbaby

Insidious lol... Even if you don't believe in that sort of thing, it's scary as hell lol.

The Lincoln Lawyer was great, in my opinion.

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Sunday's Drama @ convention!!! OMG!!!

by itscrap&theyknowit! in

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the drama -- i basically laughed hysterically!

i guess marriages are breaking up left and right within the organization.

a couple got married young.

Morbidzbaby

I didn't go, but considering a few months back they gave the shining example of a "study" who stayed with her husband who was beating the crap out of her and eventually he converted after 17 years of knocking her around, this doesn't surprise me in the least.

No matter how much people told me I needed to "work things out" with my ex and that "Jehovah hates a divorcing", after so many years of being the only one trying to make it work and doing everything possible to make him happy and STILL not being good enough...a divorce was just what we needed. If he hadn't thrown me out, I'd probably be dead at my own hand. I was on the verge of a mental breakdown and no one would listen to me...they just kept spouting tired old JW-isms through plastic smiles. Somehow, it all boiled down to it being my fault that I couldn't be happy with a mentally and emotionally abusive husband.

I think a lot of the problem is that these women are taught that they are valueless. Sure, the literature will state once in a great while how women are a "large army" and will spout off about Lydia and Deborah, etc. But it's rare...and even then, there's still emphasis on the need to be submissive. So, basically "Hey, you broads are great and all, but you still aren't as good as those of us who have a penis! Now BOW and then get your ass back in the kitchen!".

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How many ex-jws poster here now believe in Hellfire, immortality of soul, trinity, etc;

by booker-t in

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i am just curious about this because although i agree with many of the posters here that the wt society is guilty of many horrible deeds, i still believe they are right when it comes to doctrinal things as i mention.

especially hellfire.

i just don't see how anybody that has studied the bible for many years like many of the ex-jws here can make an about face and go back to believing hellfire.

Morbidzbaby

I don't believe in hell or the trinity (Atheist...would be kinda stupid if I did lol). However, I've mentioned it before, but I do believe not so much in the immortality of the soul but that some sort of energy survives death. I've been looking into Noetics, and it's interesting, but I'm not ready to jump on board 100% at this point.

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"please sign in" was all mom said to me and my boys at her sisters funeral yesterday at the kindom hall

by oompa in

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my dad never once looked at me...i went even though they did not come to the door when i went to tell her i was sorry about her sister...that i had heard through the grapvine her sister had died...they did not even ccall me...and they did not answer the phone when i left the message asking for the time and place of the funeral unless they did not want us to attend...and they did not call....but we all decided to go anyway and im glad we did....but it was surreal...i will share more later.

and i have a close friend nearby dfd about four years ago whose dad is dying and wont hardly ever talk to her... he does a bit but not her mom....neither does robert7s mom talk at all to him and yes it causes pain...but i think i am finally close to healing that last part of mine......oompa.

funny but just realized that the above two cases both people are recognizd as a son or daughter important enough to shun like me...but we dont get shunned like dfd and apostate sons at the funeral...just another attendee...wow.

Morbidzbaby

I'm sorry you have to endure that, oompa. Shunning from parents and children is possibly the hardest thing about leaving the org.

maisha, I've gotten something similar from my parents...not that blatant, but calling the kids at the Kingdom Hall their "adopted grandchildren" and saying this young girl or that young girl is their "adopted daughter" and "like a second daughter"... Cause I guess their first one is no longer any good to them.

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A question specially for ladies ...

by Dudu in

did you change the way you dress after leaving the wt?.

Morbidzbaby

No dresses (unless you count a cover-up muumuu that I wear to go to the pool/beach). I stopped wearing pantyhose while I was a dub, though. No WAY was I wearing something that didn't let my hoohoo breathe! That's how you get infections (yeast, UTI's, etc). Plus the road rash I'd get from my thighs rubbing together all day walking around at an assembly or DC... That was one area I defected.

No "modest" attire...not even a modest bathing suit. My swimsuit shows so much cleavage (and I'm not exactly small chest-wise) and I wear it proudly lol. Same with shirts, I don't look for shirts that don't show cleavage...if I like a shirt, I buy it and wear it, no matter what it shows up top.

I also went nuts with my hair...short and spiky, blue-black, and streaked with whatever color suited my mood.

And I got piercings. Tats are next!