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  If no organized religion existed, would Bible principles work for you?

  by The Berean in

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  none, a few, most, nearly all?.

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  palmtree67

  This is a great question!!

  I was just thinking of this the other day. I used to think everyone had sort of an "in-born" sense of right or wrong, that co-incided with Bible principles. But lately, I've been noticing that alot of people don't. I don't know if it's just a lack of common sense or common courtesy, or what.

  But, yes, bible principles would work for me. But I think there are some people who need them to be written down and applied for them, with consequences for not following, or they just don't get how to behave, how to treat others or what is fair.
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  Sometimes I feel like I am going crazy with the WT teachings

  by verystupid77 in

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  i went to the meetings this week because we have the co's visit.

  i have not been in about five months.

  oh my god some of the stuff you just cannot make this stuff up.. ok so like many of us i feel that there have been things done that are wrong in the "truth".

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  palmtree67

  verystupid77 -

  It makes me so sad to read what you are going through. I havent' been to a meeting in 9 months. And I feel better and better every day.

  I am thinking of you, darling.....you have my e-mail.
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  two witness ruling ?

  by KAYTEE in

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  if a paedophile commits a crime against a junior there has to be, according to the watchtower two witnesses for action to be taken.. if one party of a marriage commits adultery, does there have to be the same, (two witnesses) before action is taken?.

  if not........................ kt.

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  palmtree67

  It's just that having a baptism nullified is extremely rare, and I don't believe this situation that he's proposing would warrant such an extreme thing.

  Makes me wonder where he is at (congregation-wise).
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  two witness ruling ?

  by KAYTEE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if a paedophile commits a crime against a junior there has to be, according to the watchtower two witnesses for action to be taken.. if one party of a marriage commits adultery, does there have to be the same, (two witnesses) before action is taken?.

  if not........................ kt.

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  Brother Lecher's baptism would be ruled invalid????

  Where did you get this from????
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  All Ex-Elders, Mr.Flipper going to Final MeetingW/Elders! I'll be careful!

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello ex-elders, onthe wayout, snakes, and wilyloman, just to refresh about a month ago i told you all that the appeal committee had overturned the disfellowshipping decision by the original jc as the appeal committee got a hold of me by phone and told me the society gave them direction in this.

  i have since explained the situation to my witness mom and dad, 80 &82, they are good with it.

  i am taking copies of the counsel you ex elders gave to me to be careful about what i say at this "alleged encouragement" meeting and promise you this, i'll watch my words carefully when they ask me questions.

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  palmtree67

  Thank you for opening this thread again!

  Did they really tell you that when we join the organization we agree that the elders have authority?? 'Cus I don't remember that being one of the 2 questions asked at baptisms. I remember being asked if I accepted the authority of Jehovah and/or Jesus......
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  How do you know when someone LOVES you?

  by The Berean in

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  i suppose the english word "love" has many meanings according to individual needs and experience.

  the questions are for me: if love is unilateral or an interactive relationship?

  is unrequited love none-the-less rewarding?

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  MrsJones - You are such a good person.

  FinallyFree - I love the cashew story!
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  two witness ruling ?

  by KAYTEE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if a paedophile commits a crime against a junior there has to be, according to the watchtower two witnesses for action to be taken.. if one party of a marriage commits adultery, does there have to be the same, (two witnesses) before action is taken?.

  if not........................ kt.

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  palmtree67

  This didn't involve a sexual crime, but when I was being stalked and harrassed by a JW family, my "worldly" neighbor correctly identified to the police the make of car and physical description of the "sister" who was stalking me.

  Her testimony (I had the police report) was NOT accepted by the elders, because they felt a "worldly" person would just lie about what she saw.
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  How do you know when someone LOVES you?

  by The Berean in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i suppose the english word "love" has many meanings according to individual needs and experience.

  the questions are for me: if love is unilateral or an interactive relationship?

  is unrequited love none-the-less rewarding?

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  palmtree67

  I realized I was truly in love with this man when I was told I could never speak to or see him again, and it felt like I was going to die.

  I realized I couldn't imagine him NOT being in my life.

  Also, when I'm folding his laundry, I can smell his smell on his shirts and it makes my heart jump. Every time.
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  A Jw gave my daughter a convention invitation...

  by mrsjones5 in

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  this morning.

  she was sitting outside our apartment and was approached by a jw man who handed her the invite.

  daughter came in and handed the invite to me.

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  palmtree67

  So.....how did he think your daughter was going to get to the convention 3 hours away??? And where would she stay????
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  An uncaring Jesus?

  by PSacramento in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a friend of mine and i were discussing chritianity the other day and he mentioned that, at times, jesus seemd rather cruel and outside the proper tradions of the jewish people.. how so i asked?.

  ex:matthew 8:21-22, where a man wants to follow jesus and askes to be allowed to bury his dead father and jesus replies for him to let the dead bury the dead.. there is also the case of matthew 15:21-28 with the cannanite woman who's daughter was possed and jesus said that he was their for the jews and that it would not be right to take the childrens bread and toss it to the dogs.. both passages are rather, well...cruel.. but.. in my view, and this is mine, they seemed to be "tests" that jesus was doing, in regards to the cannanite woman, her answer to the crule comparision was simply that even dog's eat the crumbs off their masters table and jesus' reply was that she had great faith and that her daughter was healed.. it seemed to me as a test of how much we are willing to give of ourselves ( in this case pride) for the betterment of our loved ones, she was more than willing to be humble and as such, her duaghter was saved.. in regards to the man who wanted to bury his father, something that was crucial in jewish law (honour they father) it seemed to me as being another test, i would think that if the man has said yes right away that jesus probably would have said, " go and bury your father, i will be here for you", the man's faith haveing been demonstrated to be true and willing.. .

  thoughts?.

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  palmtree67

  I seem to remember it being pointed out that the man who wanted to bury his father,....His father hadn't even died yet.