Posts by Mattieu

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What Was The Very First Thing That Came Across Your Eyes That Lead You Down The Road To Doubt?

by Yizuman in

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any of you remember what was exactly the first thing that crossed your eyeballs to lead you into doubting the wts?.

Mattieu

I supressed to many matters for too long a time, so once I started digging the floodgates opened up, my experiences/doubts and memories as a young child (born in) to a grown man with young children all came back and thus began the fade.....

Thanks to the JWD site and Lady Lee's best of, I got to research my major concerns: the understanding of 1914 generation/blood issues/UN and organisation structure. I am still learning new things every day which convince me more and more that I am on the right path. Though like an earlier poster mentioned, I too look into my childs eyes and know now that in an medical emergency I would not refuse a blood transfusion for my children, yet 10 years ago I would have taken a stand.

The internet has let a lot of us research our "doubts" and make up our own minds and not some committee... Mattieu

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 4-19-09 WT Study (ATTITIUDE)

by blondie in

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united nations http://www.randytv.com/secret/unitednations.htm.

http://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com.

http://www.jwsupportforum.com/index.php.

Mattieu

Thanks Blondie, enjoyed your review as per usual. mattieu

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What Was The Most Horrible Experience/Encounter You Had While In Field Service?

by Yizuman in

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sorry to drudge up bad memories, but you'll feel better when you share it!

trust me!

and here's a brain bleach if you need it after you finish posting!

Mattieu

Going out on Christmas day or any other public holiday. Knowing that people were sleeping in and just wanted to relax and then we turn up (we should have been sleeping in as well)

I suffered from fear of man pretty bad as a teenager and my bookstudy conductor knew that. He used to make me do homes on the main roads so that I would get seen more by schoolfriends/public (thinking this would help overcome my fear of man)

It didnt work......... hated it, yet pioneered and hated going door to door even when at my peak, go figure.

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Anyone Have Any good Or Weird Home Book Study Stories?

by Tired of the Hypocrisy in

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i have a lot of them but this one my wife told me takes the cake!.

my wife was about 15 yrs old and was attending the bookstudy at this sister's house.

the sister's hubby was a non-believer but her daughter was a jw and was married to my wife's uncle who was also a jw.

Mattieu

We used to have the book study at our house too. In winter we had the open fire place roaring which was great in helping some of us get to sleep during the revelation book. The wood always used to crackle and pop, but one night there was a really loud bang as the wood combusted, the conductors wife screamed out shit! ( Am I allowed to type that? Sorry, if I couldn’t)

Another time, the brother who was giving the final prayer was struggling as English was not his native tongue, he got all flustered and finished off the prayer in his own language. By the time he said Amen, the conductor and everyone else was snotting themselves laughing. At least he had a good sense of humour about it!

Mattieu....

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Anyone from Sweden here?

by AlexHall in

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hi.. im new to the posting-part of this forum and was wondering if there s any other ex-witnesses from sweden in here?.

i v been reading a lot of the topics here and i have to admit it have helped me to start seeing the bigger picture.

it took almost a whole year as a ex-borg before i grew the courage to start reading "apostate" information.

Mattieu

Not I, though I have Swedish friends here in Australia. I can certainly relate to your experience, nice to have you here, Mattieu.

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Have You Ever Walked Out Of a KH "Meeting"?

by african GB Member in

did you have enough of boasting, and decided to walk out?.

that's what happened to me during this week's bs about how to "treat the disfellowshipped"?.

i just picked up my bag and stormed out...... will i get called into the back room?.

Mattieu

Once when a public marking talk got personal and vindictive (lucky we were taping it at the sound booth) a few of walked out, caused a bit of a scene.

Another time when we heard a sister screaming out the front car park, us attendants ran out to find her husband dead of a heart attack.

On many many a time….. To check the football scores!

At many a district convention to go for walk and get a decent coffee….. Mattieu

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ANNOINTED SOCIAL CLUB.........

by iknowall558 in

i posted a reply on thread "are the governing body even supposed to go to the memorial" by maryacclaim..... it got me wondering if any of the "annointed" actually know each other.

i mean this is the most 'exlusive and unique' group of people living on this earth according to jws...is it not?

do they actually have a friendship with any of their fellow kings/ priests/ judges - someone to have coffee with and discuss their future job and all things heavenly?

Mattieu

BYO wine

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The Worse Mandatory JW Activity You Hated The Most

by Yizuman in

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of all things jw, what particular mandatory activity you really hate the most that you have to do or attend?.

why do you hate it?.

yiz.

Mattieu

CBD (downtown) witnessing, I was privileged to be invited to share in this special, selected (by C/O) work. Calling on office managers in high rise office towers. That and standing outside Flinders Street train station looking like someone out of the scientologist holding up the magazines….

As well as the written review….

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Have you ever seen anyone get into fisticuffs

by John Doe in

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at the kingdom hall?.

Mattieu

Hi John Doe,

I have not seen fisticuffs, though have see a many good elder go toe to toe with each other screaming & shoving waiting for the other one to throw the first punch. My favourite incident was when I was in the most corrupt congo in Melbourne and the body of elders were divided against each other and we went through 12 months of scheming/bullying/lying/financial deception regarding the k/hall title………. Trust me this story needs a whole thread to itself!

Anywho, after a number of visits and investigations by 2 C/O’s sent from Bethel, we had a combined elders & m/s meeting with these 2 C/O’s, where we went over scriptural principles and what action was going to be taken. It got continually heated to the point the C/O’s kept stopping the meeting and saying a prayer for the holy spirit to help keep us calm!

During one of these prayers, the congregation secretary threw himself over 2 rows of chairs to attack the presiding overseer!! I kid you not, I am still lol now as I am typing this as my memory goes back. It was all in! Elders and C//O’s trying top separate them all and us young men sitting with mouths open, I was disgusted, we didn’t even get to say amen to the prayer!

In the wash up, the official line from the c/o was that this elder had a demon attack which led to the assault and he would be stood down as an elder (eventually along with all but one of the elders). He still goes to meetings, though he looks like Inspector

Clouseau’s

boss from the pink panther! He has that nervous twitch anytime he see’s someone who was in that meeting where he literally reached out - to beat the crap out of another elder!

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Do you hate America because it's where wts was born?

by rebel8 in

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i wonder if some of the palpable anti-american anger is because it's where wts was born.. i'm not interested in political views.

heard ya loud and clear, over and over.

i'm also not interested in posts about how stupid americans/their culture is and how smart the rest of the world is.

Mattieu

Hi rebel8, I know exactly what you meant by your question and no I do not hate America (cannot wait to get there, have met many American JW’s and cannot wait to do the whole route 66 thing).

There was a time here (in Oz) when jw’s were just put in the same basket as many other American evangelist religions. I will never forget a newly baptised sister back in 1985 asking the field service group why all the letters to the editor in the W/T were from America? I piped up that we are an American religion, I said that quite innocently and naively as that is where we had our beginning and our printing operations were based.

Boy, did I cop it out the back room the next Tuesday night from the heavies! If only I knew what I know now…. But I’m sure those bully elders got their jollies by verbally harassing a 16year old pioneer whose whole life didn’t extend beyond the society…

So, no we do not hate America or Americans, though sometimes something will happen and we will just shake our head and say “only in America!” (insert all things JW here)