Lol no, was just asking. I just wondered if it was one of the 'rebellious' things that JW's do when they leave. People are usually Df'd for immorality/adultery, apostasy or smoking. So was just curious what the statistics were.
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Simply out of curiosity..... (did it really kill the cat?!)
by wantstoleave in.....anyone here a smoker?
whether in or out....
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Just worn out
by EmptyInside ini thought it best i stay a lurker.
it's just right now, i'm going through some doubts and just plain discouraged.
sometimes, trying to do everything just wears me out, and i feel like i'm suffocating.
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You sound just like me :) Needing the validation from another human being, that yes, you are worth something. I think I do this even to this day. Hard habit to break. I think it's partly why I jumped into marrying the first one that took interest. I just wanted to be worth something to someone other than my family. You make perfect sense.
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1914 - what is the gist?
by wantstoleave inso, i'm totally confused about the whole 1914 thing.
maybe i missed out on hearing the new line of thinking regarding it, i don't know.
so what is the latest thinking regarding it?
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...Which must be why my dad has always said to me that some of those remnant are getting mighty old, and if some of them are to be alive for the tribulation, then it shows how close the end is (my dads words). Thanks, now I understand :)
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Simply out of curiosity..... (did it really kill the cat?!)
by wantstoleave in.....anyone here a smoker?
whether in or out....
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.....Anyone here a smoker? Whether in or out...
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Love or duty ?
by KAYTEE inmy wife (twink) and i left the org.
6years ago after 30 years of manipulation by the system that is controlled by men.. the both of us have finished with all religions..............but remain firm in our beleif in god and jesus christ !!..
the last 18 months we have been looking after twinks mum at our home after dad died, she now suffers from alzheimers which now causes a great deal of effort to keep abreast of demands made by the illness.. mum, every fortnight wants to be taken to church (she has been a catholic all her life 93 years old).. twink has no reservations about taken her, and sits out the meeting with her, under sufferance of what they get up too.. the question to any witness who may be reading this is, if she was still a witness, how would her actions be viewed.. would her act of love towards her mother be accepted by the org..............or would she be answerable to the mighty glorious ones for mixing with babylon the great?.
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Well, if it was my 93yr old mother, I would sit with her, JW or not :) My parents take my catholic nanna to church every week, and they are JW's. Granted they don't sit there with her (she is still hip and has her own friends...lol) but if it came to it, I would sit there with her. I think love wins out in this case.
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Daddy and mommy won't be in the New Order
by dissed init's time for my weekly sunday afternoon rant.. my story starts with my daughter seven years ago when she was 11. even though we were not associating anymore, we would let her stay with her jw grand parents and jw cousins some distance away for overniters.. coming back from a visit, she was noticeably reserved.
she told my wife at bedtime, she never wanted to go back and visit grandma.
they had told her we would not be in the new order.
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Theoldhippe.....thanks for sharing that :) You're still a brother then? What has been said about not shunning your children? I ask because I've heard such difference between congregations as to some that are picky enough to Df the parents who speak to their Df'd children and then others that don't blink an eye when regular contact is made.
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After a week, this is where I'm at.....
by wantstoleave ini have been active on this board a week now and i think for the most part, my head is alot clearer now.
previously when i'd considered leaving the organisation, i had no other knowledge to back up my feelings.
i simply just wanted to leave and thought that come armageddon, i would die.
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I have been active on this board a week now and I think for the most part, my head is alot clearer now. Previously when I'd considered leaving the organisation, I had no other knowledge to back up my feelings. I simply just wanted to leave and thought that come armageddon, I would die. The difference now is that I am not so sure I believe in armageddon, after being here and everyone giving a helping hand :)
I go to bed at night, pondering on what I've read and learnt on this site and I find myself saying 'but maybe the organisation is a cult'.
Today for example, I told my parents how 'a friend' of mine was telling me about Judicial matters, what happens with the notes, letters etc (from my topic on here) and my mom was particularly disgusted. My dad said 'interesting, didn't know that'. This was in regard to notes being kept and unsealed envelopes etc. In fact, my dad said 'why can't elders take notes during a JC?' a my mom snapped back 'because there are legal implications and they don't want to be sued'. And 'that's a persons life they're dealing with, they shouldn't be taking notes!!!'.
Next accomplishment today: I looked at xmas trees :) I have never in my life stopped to look at decorations, or trees. But I took my child to the store today and stood in the xmas aisle, wishing I was free and never born into this religion. Oh and last night, I brought up the topic of my inactive brother (who lives with his girlfriend) and how 'I wonder how he'll go this year with her doing xmas'. They have only recently started living together you see. Mom says 'I don't know' and then goes on to tell me how when she was a kid, her mom used to be so traditional at xmas, house covered in decorations, cards hanging everywhere etc. She then added 'if I wasn't a witness, I'd do it the same as she did, fully traditional and all out'. I told her I'd do the same.
If I was to be Df or Da myself, I think it would break my dads heart. But I think my mom would still talk to me. She may not hang out with me much, at least not initially, but I know she'd miss me. I am her best friend. I think I need to feel the situation out a little more before making a rash decision. I'm wondering if my impending divorce will see elders on my doorstep, in which case, if they get negative with me, I will tell them where to stick it and that I've had enough. I've been stumbled tons of times over the years, by the injustices and my marriage situation is injustice at its best. I have 'held on' as long as I could tolerate, but know I need to come to a firm decision soon.
Thanks for listening and helping me through this :)
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I work almost full time, and am a single mom of two pre-school children. But I don't come on here at work...lol.
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Daddy and mommy won't be in the New Order
by dissed init's time for my weekly sunday afternoon rant.. my story starts with my daughter seven years ago when she was 11. even though we were not associating anymore, we would let her stay with her jw grand parents and jw cousins some distance away for overniters.. coming back from a visit, she was noticeably reserved.
she told my wife at bedtime, she never wanted to go back and visit grandma.
they had told her we would not be in the new order.
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I have alot to do with my family, my kids and I see them every single day in fact. I have not left the organisation yet, but am planning to. What's stopping me is losing my interaction with my family. I do know however that nothing would stop my parents from seeing my kids. I know they love them as their own, and would still be in their lives probably everyday. But, I'm not sure whether they'll shun me or not. I think my dad is capable of it, but I'm not sure on my mom. My next concern is like what you've mentioned above. I don't think my parents would tell my kids I will die. I don't think they'd want to heap that on their little shoulders. But I'm sure they would want to take them to meetings. I haven't decided what I think about that yet.
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by BorgHater ini'm from england and on the sky comedy channels we get everybody loves raymond and king of queens.
imo they're two of the funniest programmes on telly, i love 'em.
is anyone else a fan of these?
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That Big bang show is pretty funny too.